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You just let him walk and didn't call the cops?

cj 5y ago
I recently fired an employee who was working 3 full time 40/hr week engineering jobs concurrently, each paying $130k+, full benefits, etc (obviously breach of contract). Especially in a small company, sometimes it’s best to cut your losses quickly and toss the rotten apple over the cliff rather than go out of your way to stomp on it and deal with rotten apple stuck on the bottom of your shoe.
- foolinaround 5y ago
  wow! How did he manage it? 10X engineer with good social/communication skills?
  - cj 5y ago
    Quite the opposite. Did the bare minimum to not be fired. Never took initiative. And stayed silent in all meetings unless forced to speak. Definitely not a 10x, just a scam artist.
    - lovich 5y ago
      >Did the bare minimum to not be fired? Did you only fire him because you found out he worked other jobs or because he didn't do enough work?
      - BenjiWiebe 5y ago
        Maybe a "mere" beach of contact would have been excusable provided he was doing an amazing job.
        cj 5y ago
        It’s less about the breach of contract and more about the breach of trust. (He was also not doing an amazing job - he required constant supervision without which he wouldn’t produce any meaningful output, presumably because he had 2 other managers he was trying to please at the same time)
      - cj 5y ago
        He was fired because I can’t trust our production AWS keys to someone who lies about who he works for. It’s not so much about whether he was a good coder. More that I can’t trust someone with production database access if I discover 6 months in that he has 2 other full time jobs.
      - didntknowya 5y ago
        sounds like they didn't really need to be paying a full time worker and could have got a casual/part-timer to handle the load instead
        cj 5y ago
        You’re right. What we got was a part time worker being paid a full time wage.
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technothrasher 5y ago
Yes, I did just let him walk. It didn't cause overly much damage and I was more interested in removing an employee that was not happy working for me and getting back to business than getting bogged down in a civil or criminal case.

cj 5y ago

I recently fired an employee who was working 3 full time 40/hr week engineering jobs concurrently, each paying $130k+, full benefits, etc (obviously breach of contract). Especially in a small company, sometimes it’s best to cut your losses quickly and toss the rotten apple over the cliff rather than go out of your way to stomp on it and deal with rotten apple stuck on the bottom of your shoe.

foolinaround 5y ago
wow! How did he manage it? 10X engineer with good social/communication skills?
- cj 5y ago
  Quite the opposite. Did the bare minimum to not be fired. Never took initiative. And stayed silent in all meetings unless forced to speak. Definitely not a 10x, just a scam artist.
  - lovich 5y ago
    >Did the bare minimum to not be fired? Did you only fire him because you found out he worked other jobs or because he didn't do enough work?
    - BenjiWiebe 5y ago
      Maybe a "mere" beach of contact would have been excusable provided he was doing an amazing job.
      - cj 5y ago
        It’s less about the breach of contract and more about the breach of trust. (He was also not doing an amazing job - he required constant supervision without which he wouldn’t produce any meaningful output, presumably because he had 2 other managers he was trying to please at the same time)
    - cj 5y ago
      He was fired because I can’t trust our production AWS keys to someone who lies about who he works for. It’s not so much about whether he was a good coder. More that I can’t trust someone with production database access if I discover 6 months in that he has 2 other full time jobs.
    - didntknowya 5y ago
      sounds like they didn't really need to be paying a full time worker and could have got a casual/part-timer to handle the load instead
      - cj 5y ago
        You’re right. What we got was a part time worker being paid a full time wage.

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technothrasher 5y ago

Yes, I did just let him walk. It didn't cause overly much damage and I was more interested in removing an employee that was not happy working for me and getting back to business than getting bogged down in a civil or criminal case.