I agree that I'm underestimating the startup cost. That's inevitable, I think. I can only counter by saying that I think we're also underestimating the benefits

I agree that I'm underestimating the startup cost. That's inevitable, I think. I can only counter by saying that I think we're also underestimating the benefits of being self-sustaining at the scale of TSMC, especially with the changing political landscape re: China.