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>And there’s nothing to stop them from scanning all images on a device. All images on your device have been scanned for years by ML models to detect things all

>And there’s nothing to stop them from scanning all images on a device. All images on your device have been scanned for years by ML models to detect things all sorts of things and make your photo library searchable regardless of whether you use an Android or Apple device. That's how you can go and search "dog", "revolver", "wife", etc and get relevant photos popping up.

Marsymars 5y ago
I don't think this is accurate. I don't use the Google Photos cloud service, and searching in the Photos app on my Android phone returns zero results for any search term.
- ribosometronome 5y ago
  My impression was Google had been doing it for ages. Ex. This article from 2013 where they talk about searching for [my photos of flowers] https://search.googleblog.com/2013/05/finding-your-photos-more-easily-with.html https://search.googleblog.com/2013/05/finding-your-photos-mo... I'm an iOS guy, and don't have an Android device to confirm it. I've got a few photos visible on photos.google.com and they're able to detect "beard", at least. Which, to be fair, it's just a few selfies. iOS does this pretty well. I searched my phone and it was able to recognize and classify a gun as a revolver from a meme I'd saved years ago. That's not this CSAM technology, just something they've been doing for years with ML.
  - Marsymars 5y ago
    Right, the Google Photos service does this, but it's a cloud service, it's not on-device.
- croutonwagon 5y ago
  I looked on our iphones. And its possible I am an edge case. With the restrictions I have on Siri, icloud (the only use for iCloud is some shared albums with family, in lieu of facebook, and find my) etc. My phone doesn't categorize photos by person or do those montages others routinely get within the photos app. And the only reason I know about them is because my wife asked about them and why our iPhones dont do them. But we don't put stuff on Facebook. Our photos are backed up to our NAS. Phones backup to a macmini only. Siri and search are basically disabled as much as possible (we have to somewhat enable it for carplay) but definitely no voice or anything.

Marsymars 5y ago

I don't think this is accurate. I don't use the Google Photos cloud service, and searching in the Photos app on my Android phone returns zero results for any search term.

ribosometronome 5y ago
My impression was Google had been doing it for ages. Ex. This article from 2013 where they talk about searching for [my photos of flowers] https://search.googleblog.com/2013/05/finding-your-photos-more-easily-with.html https://search.googleblog.com/2013/05/finding-your-photos-mo... I'm an iOS guy, and don't have an Android device to confirm it. I've got a few photos visible on photos.google.com and they're able to detect "beard", at least. Which, to be fair, it's just a few selfies. iOS does this pretty well. I searched my phone and it was able to recognize and classify a gun as a revolver from a meme I'd saved years ago. That's not this CSAM technology, just something they've been doing for years with ML.
- Marsymars 5y ago
  Right, the Google Photos service does this, but it's a cloud service, it's not on-device.
croutonwagon 5y ago
I looked on our iphones. And its possible I am an edge case. With the restrictions I have on Siri, icloud (the only use for iCloud is some shared albums with family, in lieu of facebook, and find my) etc. My phone doesn't categorize photos by person or do those montages others routinely get within the photos app. And the only reason I know about them is because my wife asked about them and why our iPhones dont do them. But we don't put stuff on Facebook. Our photos are backed up to our NAS. Phones backup to a macmini only. Siri and search are basically disabled as much as possible (we have to somewhat enable it for carplay) but definitely no voice or anything.