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You know, it's rather not okay to treat every smartphone user out there as a potential criminal just because they happen to have photos on their devices. At lea

You know, it's rather not okay to treat every smartphone user out there as a potential criminal just because they happen to have photos on their devices. At least in an alleged democracy where there's this presumption of innocence thing. Even Pegasus wasn't that much rotten, it at least wasn't indiscriminately installed onto everyone's phone. But what can I say, there wasn't much uproar about piracy tax on blank CD-R(W) media back in the day, so why not have that now. And eventually we go peak USSR where everyone and their dog is suspect and whoever is arrested is the enemy of the people. Yay, it's somehow reassuring to know I won't live long enough to see it.

nonbirithm 5y ago
And it's fine to treat everyone as a potential criminal when we entrust our data on the same company's servers? No matter if on-device scanning makes surveillance easier than ever, the surveillance itself was still a significant possibility up to this point with server-side scanning. Imagine how many petabytes of user data already exist in the cloud.
- short_sells_poo 5y ago
  So in your mind because bad thing X is already happening, it's completely OK for bad thing XY to also start happening?
  - nonbirithm 5y ago
    No, it's that in spite of there already being an invasive scanning process in place for this long at every major tech company that handles user data, nobody seemed to care until now.
    - hda2 5y ago
      Most people weren't aware or couldn't see where this was going. Now that it's becoming obvious, people are starting to care.
    - WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
      Also, there's a difference. You upload stuff to someone's server' if they don't vet it, they become accomplices. Apple intrudes on what you do on your phone, this, among other things, tells that you paid mad bucks for this phone and you don't even own it, you rent it from your phonelord Apple. Also, in their eyes you're suspect and likely a filthy pedo.

nonbirithm 5y ago

And it's fine to treat everyone as a potential criminal when we entrust our data on the same company's servers? No matter if on-device scanning makes surveillance easier than ever, the surveillance itself was still a significant possibility up to this point with server-side scanning. Imagine how many petabytes of user data already exist in the cloud.

short_sells_poo 5y ago
So in your mind because bad thing X is already happening, it's completely OK for bad thing XY to also start happening?
- nonbirithm 5y ago
  No, it's that in spite of there already being an invasive scanning process in place for this long at every major tech company that handles user data, nobody seemed to care until now.
  - hda2 5y ago
    Most people weren't aware or couldn't see where this was going. Now that it's becoming obvious, people are starting to care.
  - WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
    Also, there's a difference. You upload stuff to someone's server' if they don't vet it, they become accomplices. Apple intrudes on what you do on your phone, this, among other things, tells that you paid mad bucks for this phone and you don't even own it, you rent it from your phonelord Apple. Also, in their eyes you're suspect and likely a filthy pedo.