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just me or is Lex's research portfolio okayish at best and horrifying considering the broader cultural imapact he has? at the same time I really appreciate his

just me or is Lex's research portfolio okayish at best and horrifying considering the broader cultural imapact he has? at the same time I really appreciate his self-discipline, or atleast what he claims it to be

jazzyjackson 5y ago
Maybe he inflated his pedigree but he’s not really a thought leader advocating for one thing or another, he hosts a show, gets really smart people to talk for 2 or 3 hours, that’s where his talent lies: gathering an audience for the actual experts Same with Joe, I tune into the show all the time but it’s never because I want to hear Joe’s take on the subject de jour, but because I learn a lot about the people he brings on
- sureglymop 5y ago
  I think Joe Rogan is quite unhinged these days.. his shtick is to change his opinions and so on to appease to every guest he has on, in order to get them to talk and so on. But this becomes a problem when he starts to ponder to actual conspiracy theorists or people with extreme opinions without supplying disclaimers. The thing is, I know that Joe Rogan is actually politically aligned more to the left. But his cult like fanbase can't deduce his actual stance because when he has weird guests on he cannot supply disclaimers warning about their insane ideas because otherwise he would lose those connections. I guess he's doing what's most profitable but still... quite bothersome. To give an example, when you have someone like Alex Jones on and you make it seem like their your best friend and also don't really call out and question them about their insane ideas... then your loyal fan base will actually believe that that's your friend and will start giving that person attention and consideration too, and now you've created a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
  - shreyshnaccount 5y ago
    I honestly think Joe does a great job/ tries to do a great job in almost exposing his guests by getting them to feel comfortable. I never liked his show alot, but I think that's what he's aiming for
    - jazzyjackson 5y ago
      Yea anyone who hears Alex on a podcast and thinks “now here’s a guy I should listen to” was already lost And anyone who wants to limit my freedom to listen to bloviating conspiracy theorists is no American in my book
      - sureglymop 5y ago
        Well, first of all I'm not an American so that may very well be why we think differently about this. But I agree with you, except that the audience for a podcast like this may be comprised of first time watchers, kids and young adults etc. who don't know the guest yet. The reach and influence is big enough that the podcast is mainstream, which means this is almost certainly the case. But yeah, maybe Alex Jones was a bad example, Rogan regularly platforms people who are much less known but have much more insane ideas too. We just have to be aware that what is just entertainment to us might very well be dangerous in ways we haven't really explored. I'm not advocating for censorship, I just said that maybe certain "disclaimers" are needed.
        jazzyjackson 5y ago
        I’ll admit that the original appeal of Joe Rogan’s podcast to me was playing the new episode without knowing anything about the guest and trying to figure out if the guest actually knew what they were talking about or if they were full of shit and spinning tales. A game with myself to separate the übermensch from the charlatans. I guess if someone grows up thinking that information is reliable just because they heard it on the radio, well, they missed out on some sage advice somewhere along the line.

jazzyjackson 5y ago

Maybe he inflated his pedigree but he’s not really a thought leader advocating for one thing or another, he hosts a show, gets really smart people to talk for 2 or 3 hours, that’s where his talent lies: gathering an audience for the actual experts Same with Joe, I tune into the show all the time but it’s never because I want to hear Joe’s take on the subject de jour, but because I learn a lot about the people he brings on

sureglymop 5y ago
I think Joe Rogan is quite unhinged these days.. his shtick is to change his opinions and so on to appease to every guest he has on, in order to get them to talk and so on. But this becomes a problem when he starts to ponder to actual conspiracy theorists or people with extreme opinions without supplying disclaimers. The thing is, I know that Joe Rogan is actually politically aligned more to the left. But his cult like fanbase can't deduce his actual stance because when he has weird guests on he cannot supply disclaimers warning about their insane ideas because otherwise he would lose those connections. I guess he's doing what's most profitable but still... quite bothersome. To give an example, when you have someone like Alex Jones on and you make it seem like their your best friend and also don't really call out and question them about their insane ideas... then your loyal fan base will actually believe that that's your friend and will start giving that person attention and consideration too, and now you've created a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
- shreyshnaccount 5y ago
  I honestly think Joe does a great job/ tries to do a great job in almost exposing his guests by getting them to feel comfortable. I never liked his show alot, but I think that's what he's aiming for
  - jazzyjackson 5y ago
    Yea anyone who hears Alex on a podcast and thinks “now here’s a guy I should listen to” was already lost And anyone who wants to limit my freedom to listen to bloviating conspiracy theorists is no American in my book
    - sureglymop 5y ago
      Well, first of all I'm not an American so that may very well be why we think differently about this. But I agree with you, except that the audience for a podcast like this may be comprised of first time watchers, kids and young adults etc. who don't know the guest yet. The reach and influence is big enough that the podcast is mainstream, which means this is almost certainly the case. But yeah, maybe Alex Jones was a bad example, Rogan regularly platforms people who are much less known but have much more insane ideas too. We just have to be aware that what is just entertainment to us might very well be dangerous in ways we haven't really explored. I'm not advocating for censorship, I just said that maybe certain "disclaimers" are needed.
      - jazzyjackson 5y ago
        I’ll admit that the original appeal of Joe Rogan’s podcast to me was playing the new episode without knowing anything about the guest and trying to figure out if the guest actually knew what they were talking about or if they were full of shit and spinning tales. A game with myself to separate the übermensch from the charlatans. I guess if someone grows up thinking that information is reliable just because they heard it on the radio, well, they missed out on some sage advice somewhere along the line.