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Let's say I get you to click on a link. That link contains a thumbnail gallery of CSAM. With the right CSS, you might not even notice it, but it's in your brows

Let's say I get you to click on a link. That link contains a thumbnail gallery of CSAM. With the right CSS, you might not even notice it, but it's in your browser's cache and on your filesystem. Lots of pictures - more than enough for your phone to snitch on you. All because you clicked on a link. Phishing attacks can now put you in prison, label you as a pedophile and sex offender, and destroy your life.

endisneigh 5y ago
This is already possible with PhotoDNA. When has it happened?
- stickfigure 5y ago
  Your browser cache is not being synced to iCloud; Apple doesn't see it. So no, it is not currently possible.
  - endisneigh 5y ago
    I'm not talking about Apple, I'm saying in general technology has already been deployed to make what you're describing possible. So where's the evidence of abuse?
    - stickfigure 5y ago
      No vendors are snooping your phone/computer browser cache, so this attack vector does not yet exist. Apple is building it.
      - zimpenfish 5y ago
        > No vendors are snooping your phone/computer browser cache a) That you know of b) Apple won't be doing this either > Apple is building it. No, they aren't.
dylan604 5y ago
How does this fit within what Apple has stated will be the operating procedure for this scanning?
- stickfigure 5y ago
  I don't know. But if the answer is "we won't snoop your browser cache", then people will quickly learn to store offending material under browser caches. Then Apple will have to start scanning browser caches. There is no policy fix for this; pedophiles aren't stupid.
  - mrtranscendence 5y ago
    Absolutely no one involved -- no one who conceived of this effort, no one who implemented it, and no one who defends it -- was under the impression that you couldn't get around this by not storing your images on iCloud. The idea is that it will catch pedophiles who aren't careful or tech-savvy enough, and such people exist, trust me. I suspect pedophiles aren't especially smarter than average, and most normal people aren't even going to be aware something like this exists.

endisneigh 5y ago

This is already possible with PhotoDNA. When has it happened?

stickfigure 5y ago
Your browser cache is not being synced to iCloud; Apple doesn't see it. So no, it is not currently possible.
- endisneigh 5y ago
  I'm not talking about Apple, I'm saying in general technology has already been deployed to make what you're describing possible. So where's the evidence of abuse?
  - stickfigure 5y ago
    No vendors are snooping your phone/computer browser cache, so this attack vector does not yet exist. Apple is building it.
    - zimpenfish 5y ago
      > No vendors are snooping your phone/computer browser cache a) That you know of b) Apple won't be doing this either > Apple is building it. No, they aren't.

dylan604 5y ago

How does this fit within what Apple has stated will be the operating procedure for this scanning?

stickfigure 5y ago
I don't know. But if the answer is "we won't snoop your browser cache", then people will quickly learn to store offending material under browser caches. Then Apple will have to start scanning browser caches. There is no policy fix for this; pedophiles aren't stupid.
- mrtranscendence 5y ago
  Absolutely no one involved -- no one who conceived of this effort, no one who implemented it, and no one who defends it -- was under the impression that you couldn't get around this by not storing your images on iCloud. The idea is that it will catch pedophiles who aren't careful or tech-savvy enough, and such people exist, trust me. I suspect pedophiles aren't especially smarter than average, and most normal people aren't even going to be aware something like this exists.