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What if those two countries can be Poland and Hungary? These two countries have been passing lots of laws to ostracize and criminalize pro-LGBT content and are

What if those two countries can be Poland and Hungary? These two countries have been passing lots of laws to ostracize and criminalize pro-LGBT content and are friendly to each other.

tehnub 5y ago
Apple did mention in their security thread model document [0] this: Apple will also refuse all requests to instruct human reviewers to file reports for anything other than CSAM materials for accounts that exceed the match threshold. [0]: https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Security_Threat_Model_Review_of_Apple_Child_Safety_Features.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Security_Threat_Model...
- nybble41 5y ago
  That's too little, too late. By the time any human reviewer can evaluate whether the images should have been in the database the encryption on the backups has already been circumvented and other parties have already been given access to your private files.
  - shadowfiend 5y ago
    That is not how this works. Please read up on the functioning of the system before chiming in with such certainty on its behavior. The only thing they will have gained access to are the “derivatives” (presumably lower res versions) of the matched photos, which if this is done to frame you is strictly the fake CSAM.
    - nybble41 5y ago
      I'm aware of how the system works. Those are still your private files which were supposed to be encrypted and which were revealed (either partially or fully, makes no difference) to another party. That fact that this review process is even possible means that the encryption on the backups can't be trusted.
tester756 5y ago
> These two countries have been passing lots of laws to criminalize pro-LGBT content What do you mean I live in one of those countries and I'd want to be aware
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  https://googlethatforyou.com?q=poland%20anti-lgbt https://googlethatforyou.com?q=poland%20anti-lgbt but actually this is a good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland
WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
Fortunately, Hungary and Poland, even combined, are quite small a fish for Apple to just tell them to go pound sand in some form or other. They can even ban iPhone sales, people will just buy them in Czechia. It's not like China, or India, who not only have huge markets, but could easily hold a chunk of Apple's supply chain hostage. It's very easy to uphold human rights if it doesn't actually cost you anything.

What if those two countries can be Poland and Hungary? These two countries have been passing lots of laws to ostracize and criminalize pro-LGBT content and are friendly to each other.

tehnub 5y ago

Apple did mention in their security thread model document [0] this: Apple will also refuse all requests to instruct human reviewers to file reports for anything other than CSAM materials for accounts that exceed the match threshold. [0]: https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Security_Threat_Model_Review_of_Apple_Child_Safety_Features.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Security_Threat_Model...

nybble41 5y ago
That's too little, too late. By the time any human reviewer can evaluate whether the images should have been in the database the encryption on the backups has already been circumvented and other parties have already been given access to your private files.
- shadowfiend 5y ago
  That is not how this works. Please read up on the functioning of the system before chiming in with such certainty on its behavior. The only thing they will have gained access to are the “derivatives” (presumably lower res versions) of the matched photos, which if this is done to frame you is strictly the fake CSAM.
  - nybble41 5y ago
    I'm aware of how the system works. Those are still your private files which were supposed to be encrypted and which were revealed (either partially or fully, makes no difference) to another party. That fact that this review process is even possible means that the encryption on the backups can't be trusted.

tester756 5y ago

> These two countries have been passing lots of laws to criminalize pro-LGBT content What do you mean I live in one of those countries and I'd want to be aware

vineyardmike 5y ago
https://googlethatforyou.com?q=poland%20anti-lgbt https://googlethatforyou.com?q=poland%20anti-lgbt but actually this is a good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland

WesolyKubeczek 5y ago

Fortunately, Hungary and Poland, even combined, are quite small a fish for Apple to just tell them to go pound sand in some form or other. They can even ban iPhone sales, people will just buy them in Czechia. It's not like China, or India, who not only have huge markets, but could easily hold a chunk of Apple's supply chain hostage. It's very easy to uphold human rights if it doesn't actually cost you anything.