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Cost isn't the issue, it's that we have incompetent buffoons as presidents these days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuW4oGKzVKc https://www.youtube.com/watc

by dheera 5y ago

Cost isn't the issue, it's that we have incompetent buffoons as presidents these days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuW4oGKzVKc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuW4oGKzVKc That's what a president sounds like.

theandrewbailey 5y ago
It's not just incompetent presidents, it's incompetent politicians at every level.
- shakezula 5y ago
  That's not a bug, it's a feature. Politicians like MTG and Boebert are part of the system just to cheapen it. The crazier they are, the more off-tilt they are, the better the strategy works, the more it weakens the average Americans faith in the system. This strategy started with Trump, but it's started permeating every level of politics. The more wild they act, the more they can insist that the other side is being just as crazy.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    It started with Reagan. People just didn't realize that it was the boiling frog scenario. It won't end with MTG and Boebert.
NotSammyHagar 5y ago
I agree that a president speaking to goals like that would be incredible. But he didn't have almost half the country supporting complete fantastical claims and a decent fraction trying to overturn elections. But look what he did against racism vs Johnson (not that much compared to J.), and they both still pushed the Vietnam war. Kennedy had to work around the edges on entrenched racism to maintain his Democratic majority with southern votes. At least the parties are more honest about their proclivities today.
rootsudo 5y ago
Well, to be frank, there's precedent for why presidents won't be like Kennedy.
mhh__ 5y ago
Nerva and Orion were both cancelled, it's not like they just delivered everything. If Joe Biden said tomorrow "I'm going to wave a magic wand and we will have non-intel x nm fabs tomorrow" then loads of people would be moaning about big gov. or the cost etc.

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Cost isn't the issue, it's that we have incompetent buffoons as presidents these days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuW4oGKzVKc https://www.youtube.com/watc

by dheera 5y ago

theandrewbailey 5y ago
It's not just incompetent presidents, it's incompetent politicians at every level.
- shakezula 5y ago
  That's not a bug, it's a feature. Politicians like MTG and Boebert are part of the system just to cheapen it. The crazier they are, the more off-tilt they are, the better the strategy works, the more it weakens the average Americans faith in the system. This strategy started with Trump, but it's started permeating every level of politics. The more wild they act, the more they can insist that the other side is being just as crazy.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    It started with Reagan. People just didn't realize that it was the boiling frog scenario. It won't end with MTG and Boebert.
NotSammyHagar 5y ago
I agree that a president speaking to goals like that would be incredible. But he didn't have almost half the country supporting complete fantastical claims and a decent fraction trying to overturn elections. But look what he did against racism vs Johnson (not that much compared to J.), and they both still pushed the Vietnam war. Kennedy had to work around the edges on entrenched racism to maintain his Democratic majority with southern votes. At least the parties are more honest about their proclivities today.
rootsudo 5y ago
Well, to be frank, there's precedent for why presidents won't be like Kennedy.
mhh__ 5y ago
Nerva and Orion were both cancelled, it's not like they just delivered everything. If Joe Biden said tomorrow "I'm going to wave a magic wand and we will have non-intel x nm fabs tomorrow" then loads of people would be moaning about big gov. or the cost etc.