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It’s time to rethink personal carbon allowances, research suggests

5 points by samizdis 5y ago

Grakel 5y ago
It's time to consider how we can reduce the size of governments, and remove some laws and restrictions. How about a government body solely tasked with shrinking the government and it's reach? 1% per year might be a good starting goal.
perihelions 5y ago
This is super creepy. >"Finally, advances in digitalization and AI for sustainable development27 promise to shrink implementation costs and logistical challenges for PCAs [personal carbon allowances]—and to improve personalized feedback, information and advice. Recent advances in smarter home and transport options make it possible to easily track and manage a large share of individuals’ emissions. Evidence from the roll-out of smart meters and informative displays can be used to design feedback that is highly effective in engaging individuals to reduce their energy-related emissions47. Furthermore, AI breakthroughs combined with very high ownership of smartphones will allow the low-cost development of new personalized apps to account for PCAs and trade personal emissions. For instance, machine-learning algorithms could be trained to automatically gather all the available information on someone’s emissions, and to fill data gaps and accurately estimate an individual’s carbon emissions on the basis of limited data inputs such as stops at petrol stations, check-ins at venues and travel histories. AI could be especially beneficial for PCA designs that also include food- and consumption-related emissions. Many voluntary smartphone apps can already capture personal travel and dietary behaviours for estimating carbon emissions and potential health consequences." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00756-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00756-w They're talking about a concept for a mandatory tracking app.
- salawat 5y ago
  Yes... What did you think the outcome of a government and academic apparatus largely incentivized by special interests would converge upon? Control the peons. Ignore industry. Newsflash: Insurers already do this indirectly; they're just exceedingly sneaky about it, and the only people who nerd out about it are actuaries. Further everybody is okay with it because quantitative risk management, math aversion amongst the general populace, and actuarial is pretty tough to slog through. The framework is there though. Trust me, nobody reads acutarial papers for fun, because if they did, there'd be rage in the streets at some of the things these groups pull off with just the data being shared now. Prescription claim streams, hospital treatment records, driving metadata, logistics, HFT's buying order flows... everyone in industry measures population scale metrics and leverages them to nudge the scales of power in their favor. Shaping incentives down the line. If you don't believe me, ask yourself: why do you get asked so many probing irrelevant questions every time you sign up for something anyways?
mrkramer 5y ago
This is akin to dictatorship.
wait_a_minute 5y ago
Eco-fascism

5 points by samizdis 5y ago

It's time to consider how we can reduce the size of governments, and remove some laws and restrictions. How about a government body solely tasked with shrinking the government and it's reach? 1% per year might be a good starting goal.

perihelions 5y ago

This is super creepy. >"Finally, advances in digitalization and AI for sustainable development27 promise to shrink implementation costs and logistical challenges for PCAs [personal carbon allowances]—and to improve personalized feedback, information and advice. Recent advances in smarter home and transport options make it possible to easily track and manage a large share of individuals’ emissions. Evidence from the roll-out of smart meters and informative displays can be used to design feedback that is highly effective in engaging individuals to reduce their energy-related emissions47. Furthermore, AI breakthroughs combined with very high ownership of smartphones will allow the low-cost development of new personalized apps to account for PCAs and trade personal emissions. For instance, machine-learning algorithms could be trained to automatically gather all the available information on someone’s emissions, and to fill data gaps and accurately estimate an individual’s carbon emissions on the basis of limited data inputs such as stops at petrol stations, check-ins at venues and travel histories. AI could be especially beneficial for PCA designs that also include food- and consumption-related emissions. Many voluntary smartphone apps can already capture personal travel and dietary behaviours for estimating carbon emissions and potential health consequences." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00756-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00756-w They're talking about a concept for a mandatory tracking app.

salawat 5y ago
Yes... What did you think the outcome of a government and academic apparatus largely incentivized by special interests would converge upon? Control the peons. Ignore industry. Newsflash: Insurers already do this indirectly; they're just exceedingly sneaky about it, and the only people who nerd out about it are actuaries. Further everybody is okay with it because quantitative risk management, math aversion amongst the general populace, and actuarial is pretty tough to slog through. The framework is there though. Trust me, nobody reads acutarial papers for fun, because if they did, there'd be rage in the streets at some of the things these groups pull off with just the data being shared now. Prescription claim streams, hospital treatment records, driving metadata, logistics, HFT's buying order flows... everyone in industry measures population scale metrics and leverages them to nudge the scales of power in their favor. Shaping incentives down the line. If you don't believe me, ask yourself: why do you get asked so many probing irrelevant questions every time you sign up for something anyways?

mrkramer 5y ago

This is akin to dictatorship.

wait_a_minute 5y ago

Eco-fascism