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To me the most interesting findings from this fiasco were: 1. People actually do use generally publicly available services to store and distribute CP (as sugge
by yoz-y 5y ago
To me the most interesting findings from this fiasco were:
1. People actually do use generally publicly available services to store and distribute CP (as suggested by the amount of reports done by Facebook)
2. A lot of people evidently use iCloud Photo Library to store images of things other than pictures they took themselves. This is not really surprising, I've learned that the answer of "does anybody ever?" questions is aways "yes". It is a bit weird though since the photo library is terrible for this use case.
- corgihamlet 5y agoMy iCloud Photo Library is full of pictures saved from the Web and screenshots. That is just the way it works on iOS and it is really annoying to have random cute dog pictures saved from Reddit crop up in "Your Furry Friends"-Compilations.
- yoz-y 5y agoBefore Files I've never actually saved any pictures and painstakingly routinely deleted screenshots. The first is now a bit easier since the share sheet also has "save to files" (only some of the time though, for no apparent reason). The second is a bit easier as there at least is a Screenshot automatic album. But yes, I see why people do this, but I wish apple provided a better way to not pollute the iCloud library.
- signal11 5y ago> 2. A lot of people evidently use iCloud Photo Library to store images of things other than pictures they took themselves Not in the context of CSAM, but this is iOS’s “appliance” user interface coming back to bite it. The iOS photos app doesn’t appear to have a way to show the user only the photos they took. Apps like Twitter, browsers, chat apps, screenshots all get to save their photos in the photo library. I believe iOS 15 has a way to filter photos by originating app, but for most users currently, it’s hard not to use iCloud Photo Library for photos I didn’t take myself. Interestingly, users save chat history including images, from apps like iMessage and WhatsApp, on iCloud too. I’m not sure what happens to e2e encryption for backed up data.
- yoz-y 5y agoI also remember that WhatsApp has a default where it stores any viewed message in conversation in the library.
- signal11 5y agoYes, originally WhatsApp used to auto-save images received in chats into the photo library. But they added a setting for that years ago, not sure what the default is now.
- giantrobot 5y ago> (as suggested by the amount of reports done by Facebook) The number of reports is not the number of actual incidents. It could be Facebook's algorithms are really shitty and has millions of false positives. NCMEC and similar organizations like to brag about numbers of reports because Big Number Good.