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Tried understanding Zettelkasten for a while, searched the internet, bought one/some books. But it was always too light on examples. I need full beefed out exam

Tried understanding Zettelkasten for a while, searched the internet, bought one/some books. But it was always too light on examples. I need full beefed out examples (like a 100 pages Zettelkasten) or let's say 10 pages. Of course you can say one doesn't need it, but isn't the value of any method to be benificial if done as designed? This article seems to be the closest of having good examples.

__bjoernd 5y ago
You might want to check out the Obsidian.md forums. Obviously, focusing on Obsidian as a note taking tool, but they have sections where users demonstrate their workflows: https://forum.obsidian.md https://forum.obsidian.md
sdoering 5y ago
If you are able to read handwritten German, the whole Zettelkasten [1] of Niklas Luhmann [2] is online available. with an additional explanation of the method [3]. [1]: https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/bestand/zettelkasten/zettel/ZK_1_NB_1_1_V https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/bestand/zettelkasten/zettel... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklas_Luhmann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklas_Luhmann [3]: https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten
- andi999 5y ago
  Yes, but I fear that this is actually too much Infos (and I am not interested in his field)
  - sdoering 5y ago
    I strongly believe one can't understand this method and the sheer amount of effort necessary to consistently tend to this system and keep it alive (like Luhmann) did without the deep explanations and also at least diving into the examples of Luhmann's zettelkasten as it is digitalized. Nonetheless - I also do not believe, that a lot of people would benefit from the zettelkasten system. It has in my opinion a very narrow target group that would massively benefit from this method, while for others it would only be a lot of work with limited benefit. Luhmann profited from his lifelong work on the Zettelkasten (he was an avid reader and did extracts long before his university career). But once he started his university career he was able to produce on such a deep level and with such a high frequency, because he had up front invested massive amounts of time into this system. So if one is looking for a productivity tool, I am not sure that zettelkasten is the right tool in one's belt. It needs massive investment up front and pays interest only later.
    - dSebastien 5y ago
      I personally look at this method (and others) as means to help keeping track of discoveries and knowledge in general. I believe that it is useful for all knowledge workers, but especially for academics & content creators.
      - andi999 5y ago
        Looks to me only good for academics who can discover new things from old texts. Not sure how it help Stem research.
pps 5y ago
You can see the process on videos from zettelkasten.de guy: entire playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwtkAtdkx1IZoI7FZf1X50qyzRnmw_Vy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwtkAtdkx1IZoI7FZf1X... and something new that I didn't watch yet, but it looks like it's also walkthrough, from the other guy from zk.de: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MJYtWr1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MJYtWr1vE

__bjoernd 5y ago

You might want to check out the Obsidian.md forums. Obviously, focusing on Obsidian as a note taking tool, but they have sections where users demonstrate their workflows: https://forum.obsidian.md https://forum.obsidian.md

sdoering 5y ago

If you are able to read handwritten German, the whole Zettelkasten [1] of Niklas Luhmann [2] is online available. with an additional explanation of the method [3]. [1]: https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/bestand/zettelkasten/zettel/ZK_1_NB_1_1_V https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/bestand/zettelkasten/zettel... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklas_Luhmann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklas_Luhmann [3]: https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten https://niklas-luhmann-archiv.de/nachlass/zettelkasten

andi999 5y ago
Yes, but I fear that this is actually too much Infos (and I am not interested in his field)
- sdoering 5y ago
  I strongly believe one can't understand this method and the sheer amount of effort necessary to consistently tend to this system and keep it alive (like Luhmann) did without the deep explanations and also at least diving into the examples of Luhmann's zettelkasten as it is digitalized. Nonetheless - I also do not believe, that a lot of people would benefit from the zettelkasten system. It has in my opinion a very narrow target group that would massively benefit from this method, while for others it would only be a lot of work with limited benefit. Luhmann profited from his lifelong work on the Zettelkasten (he was an avid reader and did extracts long before his university career). But once he started his university career he was able to produce on such a deep level and with such a high frequency, because he had up front invested massive amounts of time into this system. So if one is looking for a productivity tool, I am not sure that zettelkasten is the right tool in one's belt. It needs massive investment up front and pays interest only later.
  - dSebastien 5y ago
    I personally look at this method (and others) as means to help keeping track of discoveries and knowledge in general. I believe that it is useful for all knowledge workers, but especially for academics & content creators.
    - andi999 5y ago
      Looks to me only good for academics who can discover new things from old texts. Not sure how it help Stem research.

pps 5y ago

You can see the process on videos from zettelkasten.de guy: entire playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwtkAtdkx1IZoI7FZf1X50qyzRnmw_Vy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHwtkAtdkx1IZoI7FZf1X... and something new that I didn't watch yet, but it looks like it's also walkthrough, from the other guy from zk.de: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MJYtWr1vE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_MJYtWr1vE