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I understand why things like Citrix and Awingu need to exist, but I hate using them. Applications just don't work well with that much latency between the keybo

by tyingq 5y ago

I understand why things like Citrix and Awingu need to exist, but I hate using them. Applications just don't work well with that much latency between the keyboard and the display. Unfortunately, once a company has something like this, they use it like a crutch to solve problems that are better solved the right way. I saw a setup where people were forced to develop software over Citrix because of some mumble/security/mumble reason. Meaning everything via Citrix: IDE, browsers, test tools, terminal session, and so on. The productivity was atrocious.

xyzelement 5y ago
I am with you but have to see the other side as well. I am SUPER sensitive to latency. When things are slow, it just feels broken to me. But, I worked at a really successful company where everything happened in an Amazon Workspace and despite the annoyances, the place was productive and in particular, transitioned seamlessly to WFH with Covid. Seen a lot of other places like that. So yeah it's annoying but you can't just look at the cons without the pros.
senectus1 5y ago
yeah, WFH and closeness to data means citrix is a necessary evil. But yeah i work as hard as i can to try and find ways to NOT use citrix.
osigurdson 5y ago
I've used Citrix every day since the pandemic started. I don't see any issue with it at all really on Windows using standard HD resolution (two monitors). It is quite a different story on my 5K iMac however. The latency of that setup is too much for me.
- tyingq 5y ago
  I'm not surprised it works well for some. But, there are lots of variables around distance, client hardware, home user bandwidth, etc. I imagine it's a pretty rare setup to have most users happy.
- rcarmo 5y ago
  It all depends on connection and encode/decode speed. I have been working atop Windows Virtual Desktop (RDP based) for the past two years and it works beautifully on a 3-monitor setup (5K iMac plus dual 4K external monitors). I do have a fiber connection, but the entire setup is good enough to have Teams calls over redirected devices (video is laggy, but voice works OK).
rcarmo 5y ago
Well, I’m a small sample size, but I actually prefer to RDP over to a development workstation and not have my own CPU clogged with builds. Then again, I do have a fast connection, and have long learned to tweak some things that make a massive difference (you don’t need 32bit color to code, for instance). It’s a tool. Like all tools, it can be misused if you just use it to beat down nails without some forethought…

by tyingq 5y ago

xyzelement 5y ago

I am with you but have to see the other side as well. I am SUPER sensitive to latency. When things are slow, it just feels broken to me. But, I worked at a really successful company where everything happened in an Amazon Workspace and despite the annoyances, the place was productive and in particular, transitioned seamlessly to WFH with Covid. Seen a lot of other places like that. So yeah it's annoying but you can't just look at the cons without the pros.

senectus1 5y ago

yeah, WFH and closeness to data means citrix is a necessary evil. But yeah i work as hard as i can to try and find ways to NOT use citrix.

osigurdson 5y ago

I've used Citrix every day since the pandemic started. I don't see any issue with it at all really on Windows using standard HD resolution (two monitors). It is quite a different story on my 5K iMac however. The latency of that setup is too much for me.

tyingq 5y ago
I'm not surprised it works well for some. But, there are lots of variables around distance, client hardware, home user bandwidth, etc. I imagine it's a pretty rare setup to have most users happy.
rcarmo 5y ago
It all depends on connection and encode/decode speed. I have been working atop Windows Virtual Desktop (RDP based) for the past two years and it works beautifully on a 3-monitor setup (5K iMac plus dual 4K external monitors). I do have a fiber connection, but the entire setup is good enough to have Teams calls over redirected devices (video is laggy, but voice works OK).

rcarmo 5y ago

Well, I’m a small sample size, but I actually prefer to RDP over to a development workstation and not have my own CPU clogged with builds. Then again, I do have a fast connection, and have long learned to tweak some things that make a massive difference (you don’t need 32bit color to code, for instance). It’s a tool. Like all tools, it can be misused if you just use it to beat down nails without some forethought…