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Great to hear. Krita is absolutely great. Even though it's designed for painting it still has an absolutely great UI and UX and I do much of my basic editing. P

by gizdan 5y ago

Great to hear. Krita is absolutely great. Even though it's designed for painting it still has an absolutely great UI and UX and I do much of my basic editing. Personally I find the UX way better than GIMP despite it not being designed for editing. I sort of hope that they also make the photo editing features better to compete with GIMP and Photoshop.

Gualdrapo 5y ago
I hope they don't. As I see it the success of Krita was precisely that, being specifically targeted at digital painting. Now, GIMP could be way better at what it does and I don't even think their biggest issue is their UI, as they have done some work on it. But for the recent interactions I had about it regarding some tweet from Snowden about GIMP on a somewhat recent thread on r/linux (nice place to have some decent discussion btw, I was banned from it), it seems not only devs don't have the funds, they don't want GIMP to be anymore successful. Like, I got a fair amount of vitriol just for mentioning that it was so weird that GIMP offers no tools to draw geometric shapes - you have to fill circular/rectangular selections to do so (!), when in pretty much every other image editor there are specific tools to draw rectangles, circles, ovals and the like.
- shawnz 5y ago
  Disagreeing about design decisions is not the same as "not wanting the product to be any more successful"
- hexa22 5y ago
  Gimp has a way to draw circles. You use the circle selection tool and then use the trace selection menu button which draws a line around the selected circle in your choice of brush.
  - sicariusnoctis 5y ago
    Not that I care for drawing circles in GIMP, but that's two steps -- one of which I didn't know was even possible.
  - Varriount 5y ago
    Sure, but this isn't exactly intuitive for new users - even those that have experience with others raster editing programs. The de facto expectation is that there is some dedicated facility for drawing shapes and lines.
  - antman 5y ago
    I think it would be useful as a quiz to an adventure game, I would not pass that level without a cheat though
- another_story 5y ago
  I found Gimp to be to be less than intuitive, but don't tell others that. The first reply is usually “it's a different, but not harder workflow, than Photoshop, and you'll get used to it.” I had never used Photoshop until last year, so didn't have the bias. Still found Photoshop much easier to pick up. Gimp is still great, but there are choices I just don't get.
  - Normille 5y ago
    I was with you all the way, til you said: >Gimp is still great... It's not. It's fucking shite. Just because it's free people seem to have this 'Emperor's New Clothes' mentality about it, where they have to convince themselves it's a worthy piece of software. It's not. It's awful and perpetuates the stereotype that free / OSS / Linux apps have to be inferior, clunky and unintuitive. Applications like Krita, on the other hand, show that you can actually have free Linux software that can be as good [and as good looking] as the commercial 'pro' offerings. I still wish they'd lose the hideous cutesy Manga splash screen imagery though [Similar is also used by Ibis Paint on Android [0]] as, for me anyway, it really undermines the "professional design software" message. [0] https://ibispaint.com/?lang=en-US https://ibispaint.com/?lang=en-US
    - hallarempt 5y ago
      Well, that's not going to happen :-). As long as Tyson Tan is prepared to create Kiki splash screens, we'll keep using them! You can start Krita with --no-splash if it really bothers you, though.
- notyourday 5y ago
  Gimp totally matches its name. From urban dictionary: Gimp: a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment. -- which is exactly what GIMP -- the OSS project -- is : a disabled, physically impaired image manipulation program.
- hallarempt 5y ago
  We won't... We really like what we're doing, we like the artists we make Krita for and we've got so much more to do before we can beat Clip Studio (like fix our text shape!) that it'll keep us busy forever.
kroltan 5y ago
Yeah, their layering seems much more intuitive to me, and so powerful, allowing you to build complex multi-pass filters very easily.
leephillips 5y ago
I also switched my photo editing from Gimp to Krita. I tried it for the adjustment layers, and stayed for the superior UI.

by gizdan 5y ago

Gualdrapo 5y ago

I hope they don't. As I see it the success of Krita was precisely that, being specifically targeted at digital painting. Now, GIMP could be way better at what it does and I don't even think their biggest issue is their UI, as they have done some work on it. But for the recent interactions I had about it regarding some tweet from Snowden about GIMP on a somewhat recent thread on r/linux (nice place to have some decent discussion btw, I was banned from it), it seems not only devs don't have the funds, they don't want GIMP to be anymore successful. Like, I got a fair amount of vitriol just for mentioning that it was so weird that GIMP offers no tools to draw geometric shapes - you have to fill circular/rectangular selections to do so (!), when in pretty much every other image editor there are specific tools to draw rectangles, circles, ovals and the like.

shawnz 5y ago
Disagreeing about design decisions is not the same as "not wanting the product to be any more successful"
hexa22 5y ago
Gimp has a way to draw circles. You use the circle selection tool and then use the trace selection menu button which draws a line around the selected circle in your choice of brush.
- sicariusnoctis 5y ago
  Not that I care for drawing circles in GIMP, but that's two steps -- one of which I didn't know was even possible.
- Varriount 5y ago
  Sure, but this isn't exactly intuitive for new users - even those that have experience with others raster editing programs. The de facto expectation is that there is some dedicated facility for drawing shapes and lines.
- antman 5y ago
  I think it would be useful as a quiz to an adventure game, I would not pass that level without a cheat though
another_story 5y ago
I found Gimp to be to be less than intuitive, but don't tell others that. The first reply is usually “it's a different, but not harder workflow, than Photoshop, and you'll get used to it.” I had never used Photoshop until last year, so didn't have the bias. Still found Photoshop much easier to pick up. Gimp is still great, but there are choices I just don't get.
- Normille 5y ago
  I was with you all the way, til you said: >Gimp is still great... It's not. It's fucking shite. Just because it's free people seem to have this 'Emperor's New Clothes' mentality about it, where they have to convince themselves it's a worthy piece of software. It's not. It's awful and perpetuates the stereotype that free / OSS / Linux apps have to be inferior, clunky and unintuitive. Applications like Krita, on the other hand, show that you can actually have free Linux software that can be as good [and as good looking] as the commercial 'pro' offerings. I still wish they'd lose the hideous cutesy Manga splash screen imagery though [Similar is also used by Ibis Paint on Android [0]] as, for me anyway, it really undermines the "professional design software" message. [0] https://ibispaint.com/?lang=en-US https://ibispaint.com/?lang=en-US
  - hallarempt 5y ago
    Well, that's not going to happen :-). As long as Tyson Tan is prepared to create Kiki splash screens, we'll keep using them! You can start Krita with --no-splash if it really bothers you, though.
notyourday 5y ago
Gimp totally matches its name. From urban dictionary: Gimp: a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment. -- which is exactly what GIMP -- the OSS project -- is : a disabled, physically impaired image manipulation program.
hallarempt 5y ago
We won't... We really like what we're doing, we like the artists we make Krita for and we've got so much more to do before we can beat Clip Studio (like fix our text shape!) that it'll keep us busy forever.

kroltan 5y ago

Yeah, their layering seems much more intuitive to me, and so powerful, allowing you to build complex multi-pass filters very easily.

leephillips 5y ago

I also switched my photo editing from Gimp to Krita. I tried it for the adjustment layers, and stayed for the superior UI.