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>Would I have a problem with being on a list that, from my perspective, I can't tell the difference between being on it, and not on it? >I don't know, I wouldn

>Would I have a problem with being on a list that, from my perspective, I can't tell the difference between being on it, and not on it? >I don't know, I wouldn't be able to tell. If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody's there to hear it, does it matter to anyone whether it makes a sound? Spoken like someone who hasn't had the long arm of the law drop in on them before, or a person who "doesn't care about that liberty anyway, so why not vote it away?" Just because you don't see the problem doesn't mean it isn't there. Just because you didn't see the tree fall, doesn't mean the world is uneffected. These are concepts 3-4 year olds manage to divest themselves of once they grap the permanence of objects. Just because you don't get much out of a liberty doesn't mean that it's cool to force the loss of it on somebody else. Liberty is to be treasured and protected. The selective relinquishment, revocation, or limiting of one for anyone should be a Big. Frigging. Deal. The fact people are so cavalier with wisking away the freedoms that underpin American Civil Life on mere suspicion of something that the State is not even required to be transparent about should disturb everybody.

octaonalocto 5y ago
Your tone is inappropriate, please try to make your point without implying GP is dumber than a third grader. It implies malicious intent and is bad for discussion.
isoskeles 5y ago
I don't understand this response. He was told it was a "secret list." Why would you take such a tone in response to him saying he might not have a problem since he doesn't know about the list? It's a hypothetical about a secret list, and since he doesn't immediately agree with the conclusion, you browbeat him about not having the long arm of the law drop down on him, etc. More importantly, this: > Spoken like someone who hasn't had the long arm of the law drop in on them before, or a person who "doesn't care about that liberty anyway, so why not vote it away?" Who are you quoting here? No one said this at all. I'm actually disgusted by your comment and the logic you present in it.

octaonalocto 5y ago

Your tone is inappropriate, please try to make your point without implying GP is dumber than a third grader. It implies malicious intent and is bad for discussion.

isoskeles 5y ago

I don't understand this response. He was told it was a "secret list." Why would you take such a tone in response to him saying he might not have a problem since he doesn't know about the list? It's a hypothetical about a secret list, and since he doesn't immediately agree with the conclusion, you browbeat him about not having the long arm of the law drop down on him, etc. More importantly, this: > Spoken like someone who hasn't had the long arm of the law drop in on them before, or a person who "doesn't care about that liberty anyway, so why not vote it away?" Who are you quoting here? No one said this at all. I'm actually disgusted by your comment and the logic you present in it.