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A negative test of infection is not acceptable because you can get infected at any moment. but they should accept a positive test for anti-body so that people t

by skyde 5y ago

A negative test of infection is not acceptable because you can get infected at any moment. but they should accept a positive test for anti-body so that people that already recovered from the virus are equal to vaccinated people. if you have a medical condition precluding vaccination you should not go to indoor activity that are not essential. But i would love to be proven wrong about that. Current vaccine only have 88% efficacy against variants! I still call this a significant risk given the 5% fatality rate.

AndrewBissell 5y ago
> I still call this a significant risk given the 5% fatality rate. The infection fatality rate is not remotely close to 5%. It's remarkable that we are now over 18 months into this pandemic and so much of the public is still in the thrall of the fearmongering and misinformation about the real magnitude of the threat SARS-CoV-2 poses -- especially to them personally, if they are not in a high-risk group.
- skyde 5y ago
  All CDC and WHO stats are reporting CFR between 5% and 10% depending on country. if you are above 60year old it’s most often above 10% https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210307/Study-analyzes-COVID-fatality-rate-using-age-and-GDP-as-proxies-for-the-quality-and-abundance-of-healthcare.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210307/Study-analyzes-CO...
  - skyde 5y ago
    So is it more important that anti-vaxer go to restaurant or that the 60+ population does not get forced to stay home to avoid hospitalization?
  - AndrewBissell 5y ago
    I talk about IFR (which is the relevant risk metric for "fatality rate," since anyone might get a non-confirmed infection) and you link to an article citing CFR data as of July 2020? This doesn't even line up with the CFR numbers you get when you type "US coronavirus cases" into Google.
josephcsible 5y ago
> if you have a medical condition precluding vaccination you should not go to indoor activity that are not essential. For how long? Until you die?
- tzs 5y ago
  Until enough people have immunity from vaccination or from having had COVID that we are no longer in the midst of a pandemic.

by skyde 5y ago

AndrewBissell 5y ago

> I still call this a significant risk given the 5% fatality rate. The infection fatality rate is not remotely close to 5%. It's remarkable that we are now over 18 months into this pandemic and so much of the public is still in the thrall of the fearmongering and misinformation about the real magnitude of the threat SARS-CoV-2 poses -- especially to them personally, if they are not in a high-risk group.

skyde 5y ago
All CDC and WHO stats are reporting CFR between 5% and 10% depending on country. if you are above 60year old it’s most often above 10% https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210307/Study-analyzes-COVID-fatality-rate-using-age-and-GDP-as-proxies-for-the-quality-and-abundance-of-healthcare.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210307/Study-analyzes-CO...
- skyde 5y ago
  So is it more important that anti-vaxer go to restaurant or that the 60+ population does not get forced to stay home to avoid hospitalization?
- AndrewBissell 5y ago
  I talk about IFR (which is the relevant risk metric for "fatality rate," since anyone might get a non-confirmed infection) and you link to an article citing CFR data as of July 2020? This doesn't even line up with the CFR numbers you get when you type "US coronavirus cases" into Google.

josephcsible 5y ago

> if you have a medical condition precluding vaccination you should not go to indoor activity that are not essential. For how long? Until you die?

tzs 5y ago
Until enough people have immunity from vaccination or from having had COVID that we are no longer in the midst of a pandemic.