6 ms·
Yeah this is way outside the government's power. We don't derive our right to be out in public from the government.
by Grakel 5y ago
Yeah this is way outside the government's power. We don't derive our right to be out in public from the government.
- LeoPanthera 5y agoThis order has nothing to do with being "out" at all.
- micromacrofoot 5y ago"Indoor Entertainment, Recreation, Dining and Fitness Settings" AFAIK these aren't public spaces
- txsoftwaredev 5y agoThat seems much worse. Forcing a private "space" to become the covid police.
- bagacrap 5y agothese are public spaces because members of the public congregate there. If you think these are private spaces, who do they belong to? Hopefully the business owners, not the government. In that case this order is even more troubling since it prohibits certain actions in private spaces, which is equivalent to prohibiting certain actions altogether, which makes this equivalent to making it illegal to be unvaccinated.
- piva00 5y agoYou can't go to a bar if you are under 21 in the US. It's been deemed a danger to American society to allow those to drink (even though I believe 21 is heavy-handed). But minors in most countries are barred from being in a bar, to avoid endangerment to themselves and others. Same thing, you can't go to a bar if you aren't vaccinated, you will be a danger to yourself and others.
- txsoftwaredev 5y agoHow is an unvaccinated person a danger to a vaccinated person? If they are then what is the purpose of getting the vaccination?
- threatofrain 5y ago> How is an unvaccinated person a danger to a vaccinated person? If they are then what is the purpose of getting the vaccination? Given the Enormous Volume of professional discussion on these matters, what's the purpose of rehashing that question here? Do you expect an expert viral epidemiologist to jump in and provide a new angle on the discussion?
- rolph 5y agohow about this; sars2 can be carried in the nasal vault by an immunized person due to the short duration of immunoglobin A in the nasal mucosa. vaccination intramuscular in the deltoid or tricep induces primarily Ig M; and Ig G antibody response. these are of long duration and comprise the majority of immune response. sar2[covid19] can be carried in the nasal vault by persons vaccinated or persons of naturally aquired immunity vaccinated persons may have a breakthrough infection; or go on to spread to others. <<If they are then what is the purpose of getting the vaccination>> the vaccination gives you an edge on the virus from the start; meaning prompt immune response, not having to wait until an antigen is perceived in order to develop antibodies, reduced severity of illness, and squelching of viral reproductive cycling
- Grakel 5y agoBusinesses are public spaces. They are not private clubs or homes.