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I think part of it is that Apple has always said "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone". People expect Microsoft to be evil, and (post "don't be evi

I think part of it is that Apple has always said "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone". People expect Microsoft to be evil, and (post "don't be evil") Google to be evil. Apple was supposed to be the good guys in this. So it's more surprising and feels more like a betrayal when Apple decides to be evil. Also, it's actually pretty easy to mess with Android and get it un-googled. Google don't make most Android phones, so there's less hardware-level enforcement of rules, and more independent alternatives. This is less so for Apple devices. If Apple decides to do something you don't like to your phone, you are SOL; you can only accept it or ditch Apple and switch to Android/something else.

nicce 5y ago
> "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone" Well, technically this is still true. Files you are putting to iCloud by yourself voluntarily are not staying in your iPhone in the first hand. Everything which is against this, is only speculation currently.
- marcus_holmes 5y ago
  Except that this is all about analysing files that are not on iCloud, but on the device. So what is on your phone is now being reported to people who might decide to trash your life. Hardly "staying on your iPhone".
  - nicce 5y ago
    That is not true if you read the technical details. Scan applies for files (and only for those) which are prepared to be uploaded into the cloud. If you don't trust that, that is another story. System is full black box.
    - marcus_holmes 5y ago
      Yes, but it happens on your iPhone. So what happens on your iPhone isn't staying on your iPhone like they said it would.
      - 28220968 5y ago
        So when I said: Am I missing something more than "but it's happening on-device!"? Your answer is "no".
        marcus_holmes 5y ago
        I think you're deliberately missing the point here. It's not whether it happens on-device, off-device, in the cloud, in the tubes, or anywhere. It's that Apple said that they would not do this, and now they're doing this. You can make technical quibbles that what they promised was slightly different to what they're doing, but they're irrelevant. The core promise of "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone" is being broken. It's that breaking of the promise that people are angry about. Does that make sense?

nicce 5y ago

> "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone" Well, technically this is still true. Files you are putting to iCloud by yourself voluntarily are not staying in your iPhone in the first hand. Everything which is against this, is only speculation currently.

marcus_holmes 5y ago
Except that this is all about analysing files that are not on iCloud, but on the device. So what is on your phone is now being reported to people who might decide to trash your life. Hardly "staying on your iPhone".
- nicce 5y ago
  That is not true if you read the technical details. Scan applies for files (and only for those) which are prepared to be uploaded into the cloud. If you don't trust that, that is another story. System is full black box.
  - marcus_holmes 5y ago
    Yes, but it happens on your iPhone. So what happens on your iPhone isn't staying on your iPhone like they said it would.
    - 28220968 5y ago
      So when I said: Am I missing something more than "but it's happening on-device!"? Your answer is "no".
      - marcus_holmes 5y ago
        I think you're deliberately missing the point here. It's not whether it happens on-device, off-device, in the cloud, in the tubes, or anywhere. It's that Apple said that they would not do this, and now they're doing this. You can make technical quibbles that what they promised was slightly different to what they're doing, but they're irrelevant. The core promise of "what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone" is being broken. It's that breaking of the promise that people are angry about. Does that make sense?