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I don’t care anymore. Actually I do, but I’m exhausted. However if I buy a new laptop, with or without CSAM, it won’t be a Mac. I would wish for a Framework ki

I don’t care anymore. Actually I do, but I’m exhausted. However if I buy a new laptop, with or without CSAM, it won’t be a Mac. I would wish for a Framework kinda thing here (with local service), but since that’s not gonna happen - ASUS it would be most probably, with ElementaryOS on it (or some distro like that - non ugly and kinda simple looking). It feels like WhatsApp —> Signal brouhaha all over again. After trying to get my contacts on Signal for 7-8 months and having deleted WhatsApp I’m back to it after my own struggles with Signal. So no, not again. My next phone (if my iPhone 7 dies on me) will be an iPhone 12 Mini (or a 13 variant that’s around same size and cost) probably. Because that’s the only new phone that still bloody fits in my palm. After that? I’ll see.

whoknowswhat11 5y ago
Another challenge is the track record of some of the chinese phone maker competitors that ship for example without google play services is not long or its not good. My instinct. This is an insane amount of noise on HN. But of all the privacy issues folks have, CSAM scanning by Apple is not going to "destory apple's brand" and for most users the safety features (kids accounts flag up on nude photos etc) is actually what people want and we will see others following a lot of these moves.
- 411111111111111 5y ago
  It's not going to destroy the brand, it only put a dent into the privacy rhetoric. There is no chance in hell that apple will stop with their privacy marketing over this and once enough time has passed people will start to think that they're the only torchbearers wrt privacy again. Their interest in privacy was never real, but their marketing is top notch as always... It's just a question of time when everything is back to how it was before
hpkuarg 5y ago
New LG Grams are nice laptops and could be a good alternative to ASUS. I've had no problems with recent Ubuntu versions on them.
thefunnyman 5y ago
Thinkpads have served me pretty well, mostly for Linux though I do dual boot. A bit pricey new, but lots of options in the used market since businesses buy new ones all the time. Lenovo has had some controversy, but never with the Thinkpad line afaik and frankly at this point it’s hard to find a manufacturer without some history of controversy.

whoknowswhat11 5y ago

Another challenge is the track record of some of the chinese phone maker competitors that ship for example without google play services is not long or its not good. My instinct. This is an insane amount of noise on HN. But of all the privacy issues folks have, CSAM scanning by Apple is not going to "destory apple's brand" and for most users the safety features (kids accounts flag up on nude photos etc) is actually what people want and we will see others following a lot of these moves.

411111111111111 5y ago
It's not going to destroy the brand, it only put a dent into the privacy rhetoric. There is no chance in hell that apple will stop with their privacy marketing over this and once enough time has passed people will start to think that they're the only torchbearers wrt privacy again. Their interest in privacy was never real, but their marketing is top notch as always... It's just a question of time when everything is back to how it was before

hpkuarg 5y ago

New LG Grams are nice laptops and could be a good alternative to ASUS. I've had no problems with recent Ubuntu versions on them.

thefunnyman 5y ago

Thinkpads have served me pretty well, mostly for Linux though I do dual boot. A bit pricey new, but lots of options in the used market since businesses buy new ones all the time. Lenovo has had some controversy, but never with the Thinkpad line afaik and frankly at this point it’s hard to find a manufacturer without some history of controversy.