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Your occhams razor is that a large number of people are collectively faking symptoms to get a few years out on pension? IS this satire?

nimbius 5y ago
The number of American citizens experiencing symptoms was 26 as of June 2018. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-usa-diplomats/us-says-26-americans-at-cuba-embassy-had-health-problems-after-another-case-confirmed-idUSKBN1JO2P2 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-usa-diplomats/us-say... so uh, yeah, im guessing there are a few dozen people who might want out.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  Well it's not June 2018, is it? There are hundreds of people now saying they're suffering from this. There's a chance that some of them are lying, and some of them are misinformed, but it's incredibly unlikely that all of them are incorrect.
toxik 5y ago
Why is this so surprising? This is something people have been doing for decades in most welfare societies.
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  Not on novel, source-unknown diseases that garner significant attention and likely dedicated medical research. Be smarter than this.
  - toxik 5y ago
    Yes, they have. Consider being more careful with your tone in talking to strangers online, you come across as arrogant.
    - spywaregorilla 5y ago
      People have, and possibly, some of the people here have done so, but it is INCREDIBLY unlikely that HUNDREDS of people have all decided that they're just going to make it up and lie to try and get a medical retirement. That's utter nonsense. There have been medical examinations of these people that have confirmed brain trauma. Nor have these people all even tried to retire early as a result. Some (many? MOST?) of them still want to work, though some are still medically unable. This is a bad theory. It's really fucking stupid to be frank. We should feel 100% comfortable calling out nonsense as such. I'm aware this comes off as arrogant. But "There is nothing wrong, it's just hundreds of people making up a disease / international attack to get out of work" is so pathetically ungrounded that such aggressiveness is, imo, justified, if the broad consensus isn't immediately that the idea is nonsense.

nimbius 5y ago

The number of American citizens experiencing symptoms was 26 as of June 2018. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-usa-diplomats/us-says-26-americans-at-cuba-embassy-had-health-problems-after-another-case-confirmed-idUSKBN1JO2P2 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cuba-usa-diplomats/us-say... so uh, yeah, im guessing there are a few dozen people who might want out.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
Well it's not June 2018, is it? There are hundreds of people now saying they're suffering from this. There's a chance that some of them are lying, and some of them are misinformed, but it's incredibly unlikely that all of them are incorrect.

toxik 5y ago

Why is this so surprising? This is something people have been doing for decades in most welfare societies.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
Not on novel, source-unknown diseases that garner significant attention and likely dedicated medical research. Be smarter than this.
- toxik 5y ago
  Yes, they have. Consider being more careful with your tone in talking to strangers online, you come across as arrogant.
  - spywaregorilla 5y ago
    People have, and possibly, some of the people here have done so, but it is INCREDIBLY unlikely that HUNDREDS of people have all decided that they're just going to make it up and lie to try and get a medical retirement. That's utter nonsense. There have been medical examinations of these people that have confirmed brain trauma. Nor have these people all even tried to retire early as a result. Some (many? MOST?) of them still want to work, though some are still medically unable. This is a bad theory. It's really fucking stupid to be frank. We should feel 100% comfortable calling out nonsense as such. I'm aware this comes off as arrogant. But "There is nothing wrong, it's just hundreds of people making up a disease / international attack to get out of work" is so pathetically ungrounded that such aggressiveness is, imo, justified, if the broad consensus isn't immediately that the idea is nonsense.