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Apple hashes all of your photos offline and then pinky promises to only check the hashes against the official on phone database when the user initiated an uploa

Apple hashes all of your photos offline and then pinky promises to only check the hashes against the official on phone database when the user initiated an upload. The problem isn’t about wackos it’s about governments forcing Apple to do things with this new weapon

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Every other cloud storage provider has implemented scanning since 2011-2013.
- merpnderp 5y ago
  I haven't seen a single person concerned about Apple scanning photos in iCloud. The problem is entirely that the scan is happening on your personal phone with apparently some janky implementation that in one week has already shown to have serious flaws.
- musha68k 5y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
tpush 5y ago
> Apple hashes all of your photos offline [...] No, only the ones designated for upload to iCloud. > [...] it’s about governments forcing Apple to do things with this new weapon Governments can already force Apple to do any kind of scanning, "weapon" being built already or not.
- withinboredom 5y ago
  Says who? Apple? How much is that worth?
  - Tagbert 5y ago
    If Apple were going to lie about this process, they didn't need to announce it and go into so much detail at all. They could have just kept it quiet the way the current server side CSAM scanning is done by others already. The legal and market impacts of Apple lying would be severe.
- nottorp 5y ago
  > > Apple hashes all of your photos offline [...] > No, only the ones designated for upload to iCloud. How do you verify that?
  - theshrike79 5y ago
    If you turn off iCloud, the hash list will never get downloaded on your phone. No scanning will take place in that case.
    - nottorp 5y ago
      How do you verify that? :) You're just quoting what apple says. Which may be all they're allowed to say due to the national security letter thing.
      - theshrike79 5y ago
        I'm trusting in the hacker community with this. If Apple really is trying to sneak in a CSAM database on your phone with iCloud disabled, someone WILL catch it and raise so much hell we'll all hear it.
        nottorp 5y ago
        iOS is open source now?
        theshrike79 5y ago
        Network sniffers are.

gjsman-1000 5y ago

Every other cloud storage provider has implemented scanning since 2011-2013.

merpnderp 5y ago
I haven't seen a single person concerned about Apple scanning photos in iCloud. The problem is entirely that the scan is happening on your personal phone with apparently some janky implementation that in one week has already shown to have serious flaws.
musha68k 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

tpush 5y ago

> Apple hashes all of your photos offline [...] No, only the ones designated for upload to iCloud. > [...] it’s about governments forcing Apple to do things with this new weapon Governments can already force Apple to do any kind of scanning, "weapon" being built already or not.

withinboredom 5y ago
Says who? Apple? How much is that worth?
- Tagbert 5y ago
  If Apple were going to lie about this process, they didn't need to announce it and go into so much detail at all. They could have just kept it quiet the way the current server side CSAM scanning is done by others already. The legal and market impacts of Apple lying would be severe.
nottorp 5y ago
> > Apple hashes all of your photos offline [...] > No, only the ones designated for upload to iCloud. How do you verify that?
- theshrike79 5y ago
  If you turn off iCloud, the hash list will never get downloaded on your phone. No scanning will take place in that case.
  - nottorp 5y ago
    How do you verify that? :) You're just quoting what apple says. Which may be all they're allowed to say due to the national security letter thing.
    - theshrike79 5y ago
      I'm trusting in the hacker community with this. If Apple really is trying to sneak in a CSAM database on your phone with iCloud disabled, someone WILL catch it and raise so much hell we'll all hear it.
      - nottorp 5y ago
        iOS is open source now?
        theshrike79 5y ago
        Network sniffers are.