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Even if they weren’t lying through their teeth, this changes nothing. My objection is to Apple believing that they can use a device I own for proactive law enfo

Even if they weren’t lying through their teeth, this changes nothing. My objection is to Apple believing that they can use a device I own for proactive law enforcement and then acting on that belief. Nothing about how they do that is even worth considering. Apple is spying on you for the police.

sharken 5y ago
The last sentence is the simple truth that no amount of Apple marketing dollars can hide.
- dudul 5y ago
  And the thing is they're spying on you for nothing - at least not to catch pedos. Pedos are extremely tech-savvy, they need to be to survive. Starting now, none of them is gonna use Apple products and that's it. My guess is they'll catch as many pedos as terrorists that were caught by the TSA.
  - aunterste 5y ago
    The TSA is the sole gateway to getting on a commercial flight, so while they not catch many/any, they are an effective deterrent, Apple has no such monopoly to leave any dent on the Pedo scene.
  - rgovostes 5y ago
    > [In 2018, Facebook Messenger] was responsible for nearly 12 million of the 18.4 million worldwide reports of child sexual abuse material, according to people familiar with the reports. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/28/us/child-sex-abuse.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/28/us/child-sex-...
  - joshstrange 5y ago
    > Pedos are extremely tech-savvy, they need to be to survive. This is not at all borne out in reality. When the FBI rounded up a big ring of CSAM creators/consumers a few years back it came out that they (the people sharing) had rules for how to interact with the community that would have fully protected them, but many of them were sloppy. Same thing with the amount of CSAM that FB reports.