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Obviously there are exceptions and not every EU dev is paid less than every US dev. The point is that there are large numbers of developers across the EU who ca
by PragmaticPulp 5y ago
Obviously there are exceptions and not every EU dev is paid less than every US dev. The point is that there are large numbers of developers across the EU who can stand to gain a lot by working remotely for US wages. Not every last one of them, but many. Switzerland is only 2% of the EU’s population.
- whimsicalism 5y ago> Switzerland is only 2% of the EU’s population. The Bay Area is, similarly, only 2.5% of the US' population.
- PragmaticPulp 5y agoPart of the draw of hiring remote is that you don’t have to pay Bay Area salaries. I wasn’t referring to Bay Area salaries. I was referring to normal US developer salaries, which are still higher than common EU salaries. My comment was about general hiring, not the outlier edge cases. If you want to pay Bay Area salaries you can obviously compete on compensation with just about anyone, anywhere with very few exceptions.
- tribaal 5y agoI think that's the wrong take, personally. The draw of hiring remote is that you will get access to great engineers that would otherwise never want to move to the Bay Area. You get to compete for their talent if you're offering full remote, but so do other companies that pay "Bay Area salaries". I think it's great for software engineers everywhere, but not great for the Bay Area itself since the incentive to move there becomes lower (salary is not the only reason people move to the Bay Area, but it's definitely a big pull). Although if you live there that means less pressure on real estate ;)
- jtwaleson 5y agoSwitzerland is 0% of the EU population because Switzerland is not in the EU.
- odiroot 5y agoIn Germany, even good software engineering jobs pay on average 2-3x less than their US equivalents.