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Citation: "I chose not to put a photo of myself online". Assuming that: 1) "Andrea Vassell" is a pseudonym (so that Google won't confirm claim for panel) or a

by Lockal 5y ago

Citation: "I chose not to put a photo of myself online". Assuming that: 1) "Andrea Vassell" is a pseudonym (so that Google won't confirm claim for panel) or author just does not want send any extra information to Google 2) There are multiple "Andrea Vassell" writers, fitting Wikidata eligibility criteria The solution would be: 1) Find origins of wrong images 2) Create a Wikidata item for each author and link each item to pages, which contain relevant images with https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P973 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P973 3) It is a good idea to create a page, describing original "Andrea Vassell" starting with a definition in a form of "Andrea Vassell is an NNNan writer, publisher of non-fiction books ...etc...". This page may contain the images of books (so that final card may look like https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/122rd6_8&hl=en https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/122rd6_8&hl=en) Step-by-step example: 1) I was notified that Google Knowledge Graph mixes Russian historian Andrey Simonov and American economist Andrey Simonov (wrong page snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20201202182248/https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=%2Fg%2F11fyy5b4yb&hl=en https://web.archive.org/web/20201202182248/https://www.googl...) 2) I created https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41802044 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41802044, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q103187106 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q103187106, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q103378461 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q103378461 and improved https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4419737 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4419737 (as all of them are passing notability requirements) 3) After few weeks Google removed photo of economist from historian (https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/1hb_dk0rq&hl=en https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/1hb_dk0rq&hl=en), because this photo was attached to economist card https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11fyy5b4yb&hl=en https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11fyy5b4yb&hl=en Disclosure: I'm a Wikidata editor with 10M+ edits (mostly tool-assisted, of course). Have no relation with Google, other than hundreds of unsuccessful attempts to communicate with a brick wall of Google's contact form.

corpdronejuly 5y ago
Why on earth are we providing free labor to fix googles mistake though? I get why we might to help the various Ms Vassell's who are caught up in this though, but why are we pretending that Google is being reasonable here?
Lockal 5y ago
Another important notice. Ignore all suggestions from comments to provide fake data. Of course there are checks on Google's side. It is trivial to detect that image was generated with convolutional neural network. It is trivial to detect that you have used already known to GoogleBot image of Sergey Brin. Google marks sources with many contradictory facts as untrusted and pessimizes them when calculating weights for Knowledge Graph. This is not a speculation, this is literally written in published patents.

by Lockal 5y ago

corpdronejuly 5y ago

Why on earth are we providing free labor to fix googles mistake though? I get why we might to help the various Ms Vassell's who are caught up in this though, but why are we pretending that Google is being reasonable here?

Lockal 5y ago

Another important notice. Ignore all suggestions from comments to provide fake data. Of course there are checks on Google's side. It is trivial to detect that image was generated with convolutional neural network. It is trivial to detect that you have used already known to GoogleBot image of Sergey Brin. Google marks sources with many contradictory facts as untrusted and pessimizes them when calculating weights for Knowledge Graph. This is not a speculation, this is literally written in published patents.