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I am British and I moved to an EU country when Britain was still in the EU. I was surprised because unless I went to the immigration office to prove to them th

I am British and I moved to an EU country when Britain was still in the EU. I was surprised because unless I went to the immigration office to prove to them that I either had 'enough' (never really defined) money to support myself, or had a permanent employment contract - I would not have any state coverage for anything (health etc). The UK would of course not support my health care in a different country on a permanent basis. This was within the EU, so free movement and that - so I was indeed surprised, that other countries did something similar within the EU.

cataphract 5y ago
What country is this? In Portugal you only need a declaration under penalty of perjury that 1) you are employed or self-employed (no need of a permanent contract), 2) that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependents and that you have health insurance, provided such requirement applies to Portuguese citizens in your country of origin (leaving asides the students here). In particular the national law that transposes directive 2004/38/EC (Lei n.º 37/2006) says in article 9, n. 4: > [...] Without prejudice to the dispositions in chapter VII, Union citizens or their family shall never be removed in the following circumstances: > a) [...] > b) When the Union citizens entered Portugal to seek employment and they prove that they continue to keep seeking employment. Chapter VII only says people who joined to country to look for employment are not entitled to social security even after 3 months (which applies across the board). And when I registered in the Netherlands I don't remember having to provide proof of employment too, though they might have had that information on file. In any case, it was not a permanent contract.
- alibarber 5y ago
  This is Finland. That declaration is basically what they are checking but you are not trusted to declare it yourself. I don't know how important the permanent thing is or if it is tbh. Here it is not possible to claim salary-linked unemployment benefits (which on paper are actually quite generous) unless you have worked for some period of time (6 months or so in some larger period) even if you are as Finnish as can be. The thing is, there are many 'soft' things that rely on that registration going through, eg. bank account[1], even a local-priced transport pass. [1]A Finnish bank account here is more than a place to stash money, it's proof of your ID online to any of the nice e-government services.
  - cataphract 5y ago
    For unemployment benefits here you need to have worked 1 year in the past 2 years (possibly interpolated). This applies to nationals and union citizens alike. But the time you worked in other EU countries count towards that total as well. So there is not even indirect discrimination against Union citizens.

cataphract 5y ago

What country is this? In Portugal you only need a declaration under penalty of perjury that 1) you are employed or self-employed (no need of a permanent contract), 2) that you have enough money to support yourself and your dependents and that you have health insurance, provided such requirement applies to Portuguese citizens in your country of origin (leaving asides the students here). In particular the national law that transposes directive 2004/38/EC (Lei n.º 37/2006) says in article 9, n. 4: > [...] Without prejudice to the dispositions in chapter VII, Union citizens or their family shall never be removed in the following circumstances: > a) [...] > b) When the Union citizens entered Portugal to seek employment and they prove that they continue to keep seeking employment. Chapter VII only says people who joined to country to look for employment are not entitled to social security even after 3 months (which applies across the board). And when I registered in the Netherlands I don't remember having to provide proof of employment too, though they might have had that information on file. In any case, it was not a permanent contract.

alibarber 5y ago
This is Finland. That declaration is basically what they are checking but you are not trusted to declare it yourself. I don't know how important the permanent thing is or if it is tbh. Here it is not possible to claim salary-linked unemployment benefits (which on paper are actually quite generous) unless you have worked for some period of time (6 months or so in some larger period) even if you are as Finnish as can be. The thing is, there are many 'soft' things that rely on that registration going through, eg. bank account[1], even a local-priced transport pass. [1]A Finnish bank account here is more than a place to stash money, it's proof of your ID online to any of the nice e-government services.
- cataphract 5y ago
  For unemployment benefits here you need to have worked 1 year in the past 2 years (possibly interpolated). This applies to nationals and union citizens alike. But the time you worked in other EU countries count towards that total as well. So there is not even indirect discrimination against Union citizens.