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Not sure about how the situation is in the States but the people driving those quick delivery vans over here in Eastern Europe (and over much of Western Europe,

Not sure about how the situation is in the States but the people driving those quick delivery vans over here in Eastern Europe (and over much of Western Europe, too, my country is in the EU so their companies can send them anywhere from Varna to close to Gibraltar at a moment's notice) have a very, very tough life, with many of them doing 14-16-hour driving stints. Apart of the huge stress that entails and the accompanying health conditions many of them also get into fatal road accidents because of said overwork and tiredness. Fortunately the work of drivers driving big lorries is more tightly regulated with the worker's wellbeing also taken into consideration so that there's a fixed time interval per day you are allowed to drive, after which you have to literally stop at the first parking spot at the side of the road, no matter what the boss screams in your phone from half-way across the continent.

rytis 5y ago
> with many of them doing 14-16-hour driving stints Are they not required to comply with driving time trackers? From https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/road/social_provisions/driving_time_en https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/road/social_provisions/...: "Daily driving period shall not exceed 9 hours, with an exemption of twice a week when it can be extended to 10 hours."
- paganel 5y ago
  > Are they not required to comply with driving time trackers? Unfortunately not for the smaller vans. In your link they mention: > road haulage and passenger transport vehicles, which "road haulage" I'm pretty sure means the regular big lorries we all think about. But when driving a Mercedes Sprinter [1] the same rules don't apply. You can actually drive that Sprinter with a regular driver's license, while for a regular lorry you need to take additional exams so that you can get into the "you can drive a lorry/big truck" category. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/2019_Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_314_CDi_2.1.jpg/1200px-2019_Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_314_CDi_2.1.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/20...
- michaelt 5y ago
  If you're driving an 18-wheeler truck, sure. But a lot of door-to-door delivery these days uses "independent contractors" who use their personal vehicles and fuel, and get paid e.g. £120 for 180 deliveries. Nobody's enforcing digital tacho cards for people's personal vehicles.

rytis 5y ago

> with many of them doing 14-16-hour driving stints Are they not required to comply with driving time trackers? From https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/road/social_provisions/driving_time_en https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/road/social_provisions/...: "Daily driving period shall not exceed 9 hours, with an exemption of twice a week when it can be extended to 10 hours."

paganel 5y ago
> Are they not required to comply with driving time trackers? Unfortunately not for the smaller vans. In your link they mention: > road haulage and passenger transport vehicles, which "road haulage" I'm pretty sure means the regular big lorries we all think about. But when driving a Mercedes Sprinter [1] the same rules don't apply. You can actually drive that Sprinter with a regular driver's license, while for a regular lorry you need to take additional exams so that you can get into the "you can drive a lorry/big truck" category. [1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/2019_Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_314_CDi_2.1.jpg/1200px-2019_Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter_314_CDi_2.1.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/20...
michaelt 5y ago
If you're driving an 18-wheeler truck, sure. But a lot of door-to-door delivery these days uses "independent contractors" who use their personal vehicles and fuel, and get paid e.g. £120 for 180 deliveries. Nobody's enforcing digital tacho cards for people's personal vehicles.