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That assumes that the human review process is competent, your own images aren’t poisoned in some way (consider your own kids in the bath with some noise added)
by hughrr 5y ago
That assumes that the human review process is competent, your own images aren’t poisoned in some way (consider your own kids in the bath with some noise added) etc.
In the mean time they lock your account which means your entire digital life stops dead until their review process is done.
No way do I accept any of this.
Also the hashes are on the device I understand and it’s not going to be that difficult to extract them.
- user-the-name 5y agoThe human reviewer would be able to check against the exact image that generated the hash in the first place. Taking another completely unrelated image and perturbing it would be immediately obvious.
- hughrr 5y agoSo there’s an office somewhere with computers full of illegal child porn that people are staring at and comparing your photos to? There’s some irony in that.
- henrikeh 5y agoYes. That is called NCMEC in the US and it is a core aspect of how this whole process works. If you don’t understand the details of this, I’ll recommend this podcast episode which sums it up and discusses the implications https://atp.fm/443 https://atp.fm/443
- hughrr 5y agoI am aware of the details. The episode of Brass Eye comes into context here, the relevant clip being as follows, showing exactly the issues of competence. https://youtu.be/_U-7L1tmBAo https://youtu.be/_U-7L1tmBAo
- henrikeh 5y agoI’m sorry, what is your point? I legitimately don’t understand what you mean.
- et2o 5y agoI don’t have much of an opinion here except that it is silly to write “I am aware of the details” when someone gives you a helpful explanation and you are obviously not aware of the details, as you had just asked a question betraying.
- FabHK 5y agoYou: > the hashes are on the device I understand and it’s not going to be that difficult to extract them. ---- A Review of the Cryptography Behind the Apple PSI System, Benny Pinkas, Dept. of Computer Science, Bar-Ilan University: > Do users learn the CSAM database? No user receives any CSAM photo, not even in encrypted form. Users receive a data structure of blinded fingerprints of photos in the CSAM database. Users cannot recover these fingerprints and therefore cannot use them to identify which photos are in the CSAM database. https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Technical_Assessment_of_CSAM_Detection_Benny_Pinkas.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Technical_Assessment_... ---- The Apple PSI Protocol, Mihir Bellare, Department of Computer Science and Engineering University of California, San Diego: > users do not learn the contents of the CSAM database. https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Technical_Assessment_of_CSAM_Detection_Mihir_Bellare.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Technical_Assessment_... ---- A Concrete-Security Analysis of the Apple PSI Protocol, Mihir Bellare, Department of Computer Science and Engineering University of California, San Diego: > the database of CSAM photos should not be made public or become known to the user. Apple has found a way to detect and report CSAM offenders while respecting these privacy constraints. https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Alternative_Security_Proof_of_Apple_PSI_System_Mihir_Bellare.pdf https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Alternative_Security_...
- hughrr 5y agoSo fundamentally there’s a lot of mechanism around keeping secrets but the source material is available. Hmm. https://youtu.be/eU2Or5rCN_Y https://youtu.be/eU2Or5rCN_Y
- nyuszika7h 5y ago> In the mean time they lock your account which means your entire digital life stops dead until their review process is done. Do you have a source for this, or are you just making things up?