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It was România that had invaded the early soviets a few decades earlier, along with a dozen other capitalist countries. Basarabia declared its independence aga

by lucian1900 5y ago

It was România that had invaded the early soviets a few decades earlier, along with a dozen other capitalist countries. Basarabia declared its independence against fascist România, partly because they had been invaded by the kingdom before as well. România was the aggressor, despite what anti-communist post-89 history books might say. Don’t defend Antonescu. He was very much a fascist, even if he had conflicts with other fascists like the Iron Guard.

adrian_b 5y ago
First Basarabia was occupied by Russia for only one century, after a war with Turkey, who owned Romania at that time. After WW1, Lenin said that all the territories belonging to the Russian Empire may choose whether to remain in the new Soviet Union or no. To Lenin's dismay, Basarabia and the Baltic states said farewell to Russia. That was also true for other territories, but Lenin succeeded to reconquer the others. So Romania did not invade Basarabia, but Basarabia voted to go back where it belonged until a century before. When Russia invaded Romania in 1940, having a free-pass for that from Hitler, who had given the Baltic countries (including Finland) and Romania to Stalin, Russia not only occupied Basarabia, which had belonged to the tsar for one century, but also the Northern Bucovina, which had never belonged to Russia, and also Herta, which had also never belonged to Russia. When it is about any of Russia's neighbors, during the last half of millenium, the only aggressor has always been Russia, not its neighbors. Most individual Russians are very nice people and good friends, including many great engineers, scientists, artists and so on. On the other hand, the Russian government, regardless if under the tsar or under the communists, has always been composed only of a gang of thieves and murderers, and the Russian government has always been considered as such by all the Russia's neighbors and by all the people supposedly "freed" by Russia.
- lucian1900 5y ago
  Don’t confuse the Russian Empire with the soviets. The ruling class is different, thus the behaviour of the state as well. The Empire expanded to extract wealth from other territories. The workers that built the 1917 revolution had no such material interests, their interest was only in solidarity with workers in other countries and against imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism. Basarabia was subjugated by the kingdom of România in 1918, indeed. The fascists gaining power in România had already started on ethnic cleansing, so Basarabia declared independence and later joined the soviets in 1940. After all, it was the soviets that ended the pogroms in the territories of the former Russian Empire. Don’t let fascists teach you history, they lie.

adrian_b 5y ago

First Basarabia was occupied by Russia for only one century, after a war with Turkey, who owned Romania at that time. After WW1, Lenin said that all the territories belonging to the Russian Empire may choose whether to remain in the new Soviet Union or no. To Lenin's dismay, Basarabia and the Baltic states said farewell to Russia. That was also true for other territories, but Lenin succeeded to reconquer the others. So Romania did not invade Basarabia, but Basarabia voted to go back where it belonged until a century before. When Russia invaded Romania in 1940, having a free-pass for that from Hitler, who had given the Baltic countries (including Finland) and Romania to Stalin, Russia not only occupied Basarabia, which had belonged to the tsar for one century, but also the Northern Bucovina, which had never belonged to Russia, and also Herta, which had also never belonged to Russia. When it is about any of Russia's neighbors, during the last half of millenium, the only aggressor has always been Russia, not its neighbors. Most individual Russians are very nice people and good friends, including many great engineers, scientists, artists and so on. On the other hand, the Russian government, regardless if under the tsar or under the communists, has always been composed only of a gang of thieves and murderers, and the Russian government has always been considered as such by all the Russia's neighbors and by all the people supposedly "freed" by Russia.

lucian1900 5y ago
Don’t confuse the Russian Empire with the soviets. The ruling class is different, thus the behaviour of the state as well. The Empire expanded to extract wealth from other territories. The workers that built the 1917 revolution had no such material interests, their interest was only in solidarity with workers in other countries and against imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism. Basarabia was subjugated by the kingdom of România in 1918, indeed. The fascists gaining power in România had already started on ethnic cleansing, so Basarabia declared independence and later joined the soviets in 1940. After all, it was the soviets that ended the pogroms in the territories of the former Russian Empire. Don’t let fascists teach you history, they lie.