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As a VIM user I find that amusing, people that use editors other than Emacs and VIM are very disloyal to their editors, I've been using VIM for years, and I'm n

by igorgue 15y ago

As a VIM user I find that amusing, people that use editors other than Emacs and VIM are very disloyal to their editors, I've been using VIM for years, and I'm not switching to another one... Just out of the curiosity, what editor do you use on Windows? PRO Tip: Pick an open source editor, so it's always updated (ejem TextMate).

swah 15y ago
What about people that use both Emacs and Vim?
- ma2rten 15y ago
  I don't think there are many people who are seriously using both vim and emacs equally. Fully mastering either of them costs years...
  - aristidb 15y ago
    They may not be mastered equally. For example, I find myself using vim to edit files on servers, because setting up emacs to my taste is always a bit of a pain. (I do know about TRAMP.)
    - swah 15y ago
      I feel very comfortable in both of them. If Vim had ido, vc and slime, it would be the clear winner (because of RSI). I don't write Vimscript thought.
      - eeperson 15y ago
        You can always go the other way get Vim commands in Emacs with Vimpulse.
alexis-d 15y ago
Maybe that's because Vim and Emacs have a steep learning curve so it's hard to switch to another editor. Or it may just be because they do all what we can want from an editor (and even more).
- aristidb 15y ago
  The learning curve of Vim and Emacs making it hard to swith TO another editor? Sorry, but that makes no sense. :-) Maybe Vim and Emacs do have qualities that other editors don't match?
  - alexis-d 15y ago
    That's not what I meant. What I wanted to say is you put so much effort to master Vim/Emacs (as you want) so if you say "oh great a new editor i'll use it" all the efforts spent in learning Vim/Emacs are "lost". I hope you get my point! (and I agree that they have qualities that other editors don't match)
  - neutronicus 15y ago
    My fingers do emacs-y things on their own. It's a huge problem for me when I have to do something on windows. Especially C-a. That one's the worst.
Androsynth 15y ago
I used to be a sublime user and I switched over to vim. Now I'm in a weird position where I use Sublime for the ability to instantly find anything and go anywhere in my project and I use vim just for editing. On a side note, Sublime has excellent project navigation functionality.
- mlambir 15y ago
  maybe this plugin will be helpful for you: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3025 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3025 it emulates the "command-t" functionality in textmate, which is pretty similar to sublime's project navigation.
micampe 15y ago
I think that is also due to a form of lock-in. Emacs and Vim are so different from anything else, and you invest so much time customizing and tailoring them to your use that in the end they are actually your own editor, not Emacs or Vim anymore. Other editors instead are usually based on the same general idea and interaction, so switching and trying different ones is easier.

by igorgue 15y ago

swah 15y ago

What about people that use both Emacs and Vim?

ma2rten 15y ago
I don't think there are many people who are seriously using both vim and emacs equally. Fully mastering either of them costs years...
- aristidb 15y ago
  They may not be mastered equally. For example, I find myself using vim to edit files on servers, because setting up emacs to my taste is always a bit of a pain. (I do know about TRAMP.)
  - swah 15y ago
    I feel very comfortable in both of them. If Vim had ido, vc and slime, it would be the clear winner (because of RSI). I don't write Vimscript thought.
    - eeperson 15y ago
      You can always go the other way get Vim commands in Emacs with Vimpulse.

alexis-d 15y ago

Maybe that's because Vim and Emacs have a steep learning curve so it's hard to switch to another editor. Or it may just be because they do all what we can want from an editor (and even more).

aristidb 15y ago
The learning curve of Vim and Emacs making it hard to swith TO another editor? Sorry, but that makes no sense. :-) Maybe Vim and Emacs do have qualities that other editors don't match?
- alexis-d 15y ago
  That's not what I meant. What I wanted to say is you put so much effort to master Vim/Emacs (as you want) so if you say "oh great a new editor i'll use it" all the efforts spent in learning Vim/Emacs are "lost". I hope you get my point! (and I agree that they have qualities that other editors don't match)
- neutronicus 15y ago
  My fingers do emacs-y things on their own. It's a huge problem for me when I have to do something on windows. Especially C-a. That one's the worst.

Androsynth 15y ago

I used to be a sublime user and I switched over to vim. Now I'm in a weird position where I use Sublime for the ability to instantly find anything and go anywhere in my project and I use vim just for editing. On a side note, Sublime has excellent project navigation functionality.

mlambir 15y ago
maybe this plugin will be helpful for you: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3025 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3025 it emulates the "command-t" functionality in textmate, which is pretty similar to sublime's project navigation.

micampe 15y ago

I think that is also due to a form of lock-in. Emacs and Vim are so different from anything else, and you invest so much time customizing and tailoring them to your use that in the end they are actually your own editor, not Emacs or Vim anymore. Other editors instead are usually based on the same general idea and interaction, so switching and trying different ones is easier.