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Google Sheets has 'insert a row below' just above 'delete row' in the context menu; I am very careful when using a touchpad. Another one that is more of an unf

by HKH2 5y ago

Google Sheets has 'insert a row below' just above 'delete row' in the context menu; I am very careful when using a touchpad. Another one that is more of an unfortunate clash: Ctrl-0 is the default for resetting the zoom in Firefox but in Sheets it will delete columns. Being able to disable functionality or require a dialog box would fix both those issues.

justinpombrio 5y ago
One major difference though: it sounds like this Google Voice trash button is permanent, whereas Sheets has an undo button. I'm not a designer, but isn't this like design 101? Permanent action -> dialog box required.
- HKH2 5y ago
  If you notice the rows/columns have disappeared then you can undo the action.
  - oliwarner 5y ago
    Isn't the lack of newly-inserted row a big enough clue? Or the change in insertion point when you go to insert again? How many levels of error do you want to cover? TFA's point is there is zero chance for recompense here. If you're not going to have Trash or Undo functionality, you need to prompt.
    - HKH2 5y ago
      You can't always guarantee your focus is 100%, no matter how much you'd like it to be. I get TFA's point is about irreversibility, but having those buttons close to each other is part of the problem.
pgn674 5y ago
At least in both situations there Sheets allows you to undo the delete, so the closeness to other commands isn't so lethal. I've got no UX or UI training, but I gotta imagine that it'd be a basic rule that delete actions must always include a confirmation request or an undo option. In Voice, the lack of both confirmation and undo is just ludicrous.
TMWNN 5y ago
>Another one that is more of an unfortunate clash: Ctrl-0 is the default for resetting the zoom in Firefox but in Sheets it will delete columns. Odd; in Excel Cmd-0/Ctrl-0 hides the selected cell's column, as opposed to deleting it.
- HKH2 5y ago
  Oh I was wrong. It's the same as you suggest: it hides columns in Sheets too.
HKH2 5y ago
(too late to edit) I was wrong. It hides columns instead of deleting them.

by HKH2 5y ago

justinpombrio 5y ago

One major difference though: it sounds like this Google Voice trash button is permanent, whereas Sheets has an undo button. I'm not a designer, but isn't this like design 101? Permanent action -> dialog box required.

HKH2 5y ago
If you notice the rows/columns have disappeared then you can undo the action.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  Isn't the lack of newly-inserted row a big enough clue? Or the change in insertion point when you go to insert again? How many levels of error do you want to cover? TFA's point is there is zero chance for recompense here. If you're not going to have Trash or Undo functionality, you need to prompt.
  - HKH2 5y ago
    You can't always guarantee your focus is 100%, no matter how much you'd like it to be. I get TFA's point is about irreversibility, but having those buttons close to each other is part of the problem.

pgn674 5y ago

At least in both situations there Sheets allows you to undo the delete, so the closeness to other commands isn't so lethal. I've got no UX or UI training, but I gotta imagine that it'd be a basic rule that delete actions must always include a confirmation request or an undo option. In Voice, the lack of both confirmation and undo is just ludicrous.

TMWNN 5y ago

>Another one that is more of an unfortunate clash: Ctrl-0 is the default for resetting the zoom in Firefox but in Sheets it will delete columns. Odd; in Excel Cmd-0/Ctrl-0 hides the selected cell's column, as opposed to deleting it.

HKH2 5y ago
Oh I was wrong. It's the same as you suggest: it hides columns in Sheets too.

HKH2 5y ago

(too late to edit) I was wrong. It hides columns instead of deleting them.