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Obesity is the biggest co factor for people over flooding the ICUs, hence my comment. It's preventable by eating less.

vkou 5y ago
Eating less isn't that simple, there's a bloody powerful biological imperative to eat, and modern diets, plus industrialized societies hijack a lot of the negative feedback loops that are supposed to prevent us from overeating... Also, crappy, addictive junk food - or empty carbs - tend to be the most affordable option at the grocery. Vaccination is two free ten-minute appointments at any doctor's office, UCU, or grocery. Comparing the two the way you do severely undersells why obesity is such a difficult problem to solve. If it could be solved by two free shots, it wouldn't be a difficult problem to solve.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  For some people eating less is easier than getting vaccines. I know people who have panic attacks over the thought (they had to be put under to get vaccinated). Also, lots of people come from communities that were experimented on by big pharma which explains rate differences amongst races.
  - vkou 5y ago
    > I know people who have panic attacks over the thought (they had to be put under to get vaccinated). This can't be the reason for why >40% of the eligible population isn't vaccinated. > Also, lots of people come from communities that were experimented on by big pharma which explains rate differences amongst races. Even if this does explain lower vaccination rates among Hispanics and African Americans (Who, by the way, have much worse outcomes if they catch COVID), it doesn't explain why white people are also not getting vaccinated. It also doesn't explain why most minorities who have not gotten vaccinated give a reason of "I want to wait and see" [1], and why most white people who have not gotten vaccinated give a reason of "I've already made up my mind, definitely not getting vaccinated." They don't trust doctors recommendations for vaccination, but apparently trust doctors recommendations for every other aspect of getting treated for COVID... [1] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...
    - Dma54rhs 5y ago
      The point is that what other people not willing to do, or being afraid to do, can be difficult for them, even if irrational. I personally can't think of easier thing than losing weight when you know you will die younger and know the present life has worse quality of life as well. Of course the obesity problem has their own anti vaxxer movement where people claim obesity and health problems are not related, that it's beautiful etc.
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vkou 5y ago

Eating less isn't that simple, there's a bloody powerful biological imperative to eat, and modern diets, plus industrialized societies hijack a lot of the negative feedback loops that are supposed to prevent us from overeating... Also, crappy, addictive junk food - or empty carbs - tend to be the most affordable option at the grocery. Vaccination is two free ten-minute appointments at any doctor's office, UCU, or grocery. Comparing the two the way you do severely undersells why obesity is such a difficult problem to solve. If it could be solved by two free shots, it wouldn't be a difficult problem to solve.

mensetmanusman 5y ago
For some people eating less is easier than getting vaccines. I know people who have panic attacks over the thought (they had to be put under to get vaccinated). Also, lots of people come from communities that were experimented on by big pharma which explains rate differences amongst races.
- vkou 5y ago
  > I know people who have panic attacks over the thought (they had to be put under to get vaccinated). This can't be the reason for why >40% of the eligible population isn't vaccinated. > Also, lots of people come from communities that were experimented on by big pharma which explains rate differences amongst races. Even if this does explain lower vaccination rates among Hispanics and African Americans (Who, by the way, have much worse outcomes if they catch COVID), it doesn't explain why white people are also not getting vaccinated. It also doesn't explain why most minorities who have not gotten vaccinated give a reason of "I want to wait and see" [1], and why most white people who have not gotten vaccinated give a reason of "I've already made up my mind, definitely not getting vaccinated." They don't trust doctors recommendations for vaccination, but apparently trust doctors recommendations for every other aspect of getting treated for COVID... [1] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...
  - Dma54rhs 5y ago
    The point is that what other people not willing to do, or being afraid to do, can be difficult for them, even if irrational. I personally can't think of easier thing than losing weight when you know you will die younger and know the present life has worse quality of life as well. Of course the obesity problem has their own anti vaxxer movement where people claim obesity and health problems are not related, that it's beautiful etc.
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