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"Zoom does not work on my computer, can we try X instead?" With X = something the other end does not need to install, like Jitsi Meet for instance no need t

by jraph 5y ago

"Zoom does not work on my computer*, can we try X instead?" With X = something the other end does not need to install, like Jitsi Meet for instance *no need to explain that's because you uninstalled it and blocked its domain on your computer.

MattGaiser 5y ago
A bit difficult when your org has decided to use Zoom for large meetings. Although I nearly universally would be happy to skip those meetings, so…
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  You can call in by phone
  - MattGaiser 5y ago
    They are picky about making sure everyone uses a camera.
    - jraph 5y ago
      Then I guess your IT department or your management is happy to share your work computer's content with Zoom. I see three paths: - Resort to use Zoom in a browser, maybe from a separate profile - If this does not work for you, use Zoom from a virtual machine (it should be possible by exporting the camera likely connected by USB to the VM) - If you'd like to avoid a VM because it's heavy / annoying, I'm not sure there's an easy solution without learning how to use namespaces and unshare. Additionally, and optionally: - Gently campaign against Zoom or for a better solution internally.
- pjc50 5y ago
  Use the work laptop. Its security is then their problem, not yours. Do I care if the Chinese government know that I've got Visual Studio open?
slownews45 5y ago
Be careful with this. In some orgs you can get a bit of a bad reputation for being technically incompetent if you can't get zoom to run. Zoom is very invasive / flexible - so it's actually somewhat hard to have it NOT work. People will suggest you try connecting on your phone or dialing in if you really can't figure it out (note that it has a fallback to browser option if you get stuck trying to start meeting as well). I know of at least one job interview where they claimed they couldn't get zoom to run / couldn't connect - and that was basically decisive.
- travoc 5y ago
  You can avoid this reputation by saying “our security analysts block Zoom because they think it might be untrustworthy spyware.”
  - slownews45 5y ago
    That's def a better response then I can't figure out how to call into the zoom call! That said, a fair number of folks don't credibly have "security analysts". Unless you are interviewing / working for some sort of high security / security analyst type job the world may move on pretty quickly without you.
    - travoc 5y ago
      Yes, this excuse doesn’t work for personal calls and interviews, but most of my vendors seem to understand.
  - q-rews 5y ago
    I resorted to using all modern video call software on my iPhone for that reason. I also get better camera quality so there's that. Apple Handshake also makes it relatively easy to share links.
    - fsflover 5y ago
      After Pegasus, I'm not sure it's a secure solution.

"Zoom does not work on my computer*, can we try X instead?" With X = something the other end does not need to install, like Jitsi Meet for instance *no need t

by jraph 5y ago

MattGaiser 5y ago

A bit difficult when your org has decided to use Zoom for large meetings. Although I nearly universally would be happy to skip those meetings, so…

jazzyjackson 5y ago
You can call in by phone
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  They are picky about making sure everyone uses a camera.
  - jraph 5y ago
    Then I guess your IT department or your management is happy to share your work computer's content with Zoom. I see three paths: - Resort to use Zoom in a browser, maybe from a separate profile - If this does not work for you, use Zoom from a virtual machine (it should be possible by exporting the camera likely connected by USB to the VM) - If you'd like to avoid a VM because it's heavy / annoying, I'm not sure there's an easy solution without learning how to use namespaces and unshare. Additionally, and optionally: - Gently campaign against Zoom or for a better solution internally.
pjc50 5y ago
Use the work laptop. Its security is then their problem, not yours. Do I care if the Chinese government know that I've got Visual Studio open?

slownews45 5y ago

Be careful with this. In some orgs you can get a bit of a bad reputation for being technically incompetent if you can't get zoom to run. Zoom is very invasive / flexible - so it's actually somewhat hard to have it NOT work. People will suggest you try connecting on your phone or dialing in if you really can't figure it out (note that it has a fallback to browser option if you get stuck trying to start meeting as well). I know of at least one job interview where they claimed they couldn't get zoom to run / couldn't connect - and that was basically decisive.

travoc 5y ago
You can avoid this reputation by saying “our security analysts block Zoom because they think it might be untrustworthy spyware.”
- slownews45 5y ago
  That's def a better response then I can't figure out how to call into the zoom call! That said, a fair number of folks don't credibly have "security analysts". Unless you are interviewing / working for some sort of high security / security analyst type job the world may move on pretty quickly without you.
  - travoc 5y ago
    Yes, this excuse doesn’t work for personal calls and interviews, but most of my vendors seem to understand.
- q-rews 5y ago
  I resorted to using all modern video call software on my iPhone for that reason. I also get better camera quality so there's that. Apple Handshake also makes it relatively easy to share links.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    After Pegasus, I'm not sure it's a secure solution.