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I personally think they should take the hint and not even have this be configurable. If beta testers hate having the address bar at the top so badly that Apple

I personally think they should take the hint and not even have this be configurable. If beta testers hate having the address bar at the top so badly that Apple felt the need to introduce a toggle, then they should just permanently move the address bar back to the top. As Joel Spolsky said in User Interface Design For Developers: "Don't break user expectations" We've had browser address bars at the top of the screen for nearly 30 years. That's what users are used to and expect.

spiderice 5y ago
Beta tester here. I LOVE having the address bar at the bottom. It's so obviously better to me. You are only hearing the people who disagree complain because.. why would I complain when it is currently how I like it? Plus, I think you're missing what people are actually complaining about. Most aren't complaining about having it at the bottom. Most are complaining about having it floating at the bottom where it blocks page content instead of docked the bottom edge. Having a toggle is the perfect compromise.
- LeoNatan25 5y ago
  The problem isn’t/wasn’t with the address bar being on the bottom, it’s the terrible floating monstrosity they came up with and finally removed. Everyone praised Microsoft when they put the address bar at the bottom in Windows Phone 7, and there was absolutely no backlash. Apple should have just copied that. Instead they decided to make Safari into a joke. At least now they give the option to go back to normalcy, and also walked back on the floating bar, obscuring the content.
- Zelphyr 5y ago
  As is so often the case for reasons I have yet to fathom, people appear to be reading between the lines of my original comment. I never said _I_ dislike the address bar at the bottom. I'm not a beta tester, I haven't used it, so I indifferent about the utility of it at this stage. I'm only saying that obviously Apple is getting a lot of negative feedback on this or they wouldn't be changing it so much in the beta program. I'm saying that maybe now isn't the right time for such a change because if they're getting that kind of feedback from beta testers then they're going to be getting even more from the general public when they deploy it. That said; I also agree that a toggle is a good compromise and maybe it's a way of easing people into a new UI paradigm.

spiderice 5y ago

Beta tester here. I LOVE having the address bar at the bottom. It's so obviously better to me. You are only hearing the people who disagree complain because.. why would I complain when it is currently how I like it? Plus, I think you're missing what people are actually complaining about. Most aren't complaining about having it at the bottom. Most are complaining about having it floating at the bottom where it blocks page content instead of docked the bottom edge. Having a toggle is the perfect compromise.

LeoNatan25 5y ago
The problem isn’t/wasn’t with the address bar being on the bottom, it’s the terrible floating monstrosity they came up with and finally removed. Everyone praised Microsoft when they put the address bar at the bottom in Windows Phone 7, and there was absolutely no backlash. Apple should have just copied that. Instead they decided to make Safari into a joke. At least now they give the option to go back to normalcy, and also walked back on the floating bar, obscuring the content.
Zelphyr 5y ago
As is so often the case for reasons I have yet to fathom, people appear to be reading between the lines of my original comment. I never said _I_ dislike the address bar at the bottom. I'm not a beta tester, I haven't used it, so I indifferent about the utility of it at this stage. I'm only saying that obviously Apple is getting a lot of negative feedback on this or they wouldn't be changing it so much in the beta program. I'm saying that maybe now isn't the right time for such a change because if they're getting that kind of feedback from beta testers then they're going to be getting even more from the general public when they deploy it. That said; I also agree that a toggle is a good compromise and maybe it's a way of easing people into a new UI paradigm.