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There's nothing new in the actual story. I thought it's placement on the front page (below the fold) of the print edition was significant. It's not exactly a te

There's nothing new in the actual story. I thought it's placement on the front page (below the fold) of the print edition was significant. It's not exactly a tech publication.

notexactly 15y ago
I don't know what you mean by It's not exactly a tech publication. but this is not exactly a tech problem, this is a general business problem.
- corin_ 15y ago
  OK seriously, why did you feel the need to create a fake account to post that from?
  - danparsonson 15y ago
    I don't get it - couldn't it just be the first time (s)he has commented? I originally made my account in order to post my first reply to something.
    - corin_ 15y ago
      Note the name chosen, and the second and third words that (s)he quoted.
      - jonknee 15y ago
        Maybe it's the start of a reddit like novelty account. There sure are a lot of "not exactly" situations on HN. Could make a karma mint on any patent thread.
        hugh3 15y ago
        Wow, now I wish I'd thought of having a notexactly account. Maybe I'll have to settle for yesbut
        notexactly 15y ago
        You may have this one (if you can live with a throwaway). I have posted my original account in a comment above. It has my email ID in it. Email me and I will give you the password. Before that I will make a comment here stating that I have transfered the account and will wait till the delete option is gone. Seems fair?
        chc 15y ago
        Is it still called a "mint" if it's all downvotes?
      - robtoo 15y ago
        I'd just assume that they needed to create an account to comment and picked the first username that came to mind. Quite logically, this was a couple of words from the reply that they had already formulated in their mind.
  - neutronicus 15y ago
    Don't new users show up as green?
  - notexactly 15y ago
    Just to be clear to all the posters here, yes this is a throw away. I made this throw away because that is how I use HN. I had a good account a few months back called rick_2047[1] (yes that guy!). After that one got hell banned (my second or third hell ban I think) I have observed that I digress from most of the HN community on the meaning of the term "trolling". No biggie HN people, thats just a different point of view. No hard feelings (but I still would like that account back or at least have it purged)[2]. I don't have a strong urge to post comments these days (that is a con) but I am less of a karma whore now (thats a pro). Most of the articles here were and still are very irrelevant to me. I am not doing any startups so don't need all that knowledge and am not into CS so don't read those articles as well. But every once in a while something interesting and generic (as generic as it gets on HN) comes up and I feel the urge to comment. PG made it really easy to make a new account. I chose a few words relevant the comment and then post it. I check the thread for a day or two (because they are not active after that, also I usually don't post very interesting stuff). I read the guidelines and all. I didn't find any clause stating that one cannot have multiple accounts. If I have missed something please do tell me. But even after that I know I will keep doing this, but at least I know I am doing something illegal. [1]http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=rick_2047 http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=rick_2047 (I think I made kind of a record with this one, of the most unpopular comment of all time, still would like conformation on that) [2] If PG is reading this, which he most probably isn't, if you can be so kind and purge my account that would be great. Thanks in advance.
jsavimbi 15y ago
> (below the fold) web 1.0 term now in disuse. As soon as a story, any story, is disseminated by a world renown publication such as the Financial Times, it might as well be the main story for the amount of time the long tail decides to keep it alive. It's a business problem; the tech part to AirBnB was just the application. Developers should get used to the fact that their apps grow up, move away and marry business people.
- michael_h 15y ago
  Point taken, but 'below the fold' is most assuredly not a web 1.0 term when we're talking about a printed publication.
  - jsavimbi 15y ago
    In today's terms, a printed publication is entirely below the fold.
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- SoftwareMaven 15y ago
  The "fold" doesn't refer to the bottom of the screen, but to the crease in a newspaper. Above the fold were the headlines that drew buyers because they could be seen in news stands and such. Below the fold were those that couldn't. Being above the fold on the front page meant your story was a big deal. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/below_the_fold http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/below_the_fold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_the_fold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_the_fold It was a newspaper term that got repurposed on the web before user experience studies (not the "versioning" of the web) showed it wasn't nearly as important as it is in newspapers.
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______ 15y ago
What is "new" is that this is now getting a lot of exposure in the non-tech press, which it wasn't before. Techcrunch is relatively niche compared to FT, and hacker news is even more niche. What this means for AirBnb is that for a great many readers of FT, if they haven't heard of AirBnB before, will have an opinion that the service is inherently unsafe (even if this is the 0.001% story). And once someone makes up their opinion on a product or service, it is very hard to make them change

There's nothing new in the actual story. I thought it's placement on the front page (below the fold) of the print edition was significant. It's not exactly a tech publication.

notexactly 15y ago

I don't know what you mean by It's not exactly a tech publication. but this is not exactly a tech problem, this is a general business problem.

corin_ 15y ago
OK seriously, why did you feel the need to create a fake account to post that from?
- danparsonson 15y ago
  I don't get it - couldn't it just be the first time (s)he has commented? I originally made my account in order to post my first reply to something.
  - corin_ 15y ago
    Note the name chosen, and the second and third words that (s)he quoted.
    - jonknee 15y ago
      Maybe it's the start of a reddit like novelty account. There sure are a lot of "not exactly" situations on HN. Could make a karma mint on any patent thread.
      - hugh3 15y ago
        Wow, now I wish I'd thought of having a notexactly account. Maybe I'll have to settle for yesbut
        notexactly 15y ago
        You may have this one (if you can live with a throwaway). I have posted my original account in a comment above. It has my email ID in it. Email me and I will give you the password. Before that I will make a comment here stating that I have transfered the account and will wait till the delete option is gone. Seems fair?
      - chc 15y ago
        Is it still called a "mint" if it's all downvotes?
    - robtoo 15y ago
      I'd just assume that they needed to create an account to comment and picked the first username that came to mind. Quite logically, this was a couple of words from the reply that they had already formulated in their mind.
- neutronicus 15y ago
  Don't new users show up as green?
- notexactly 15y ago
  Just to be clear to all the posters here, yes this is a throw away. I made this throw away because that is how I use HN. I had a good account a few months back called rick_2047[1] (yes that guy!). After that one got hell banned (my second or third hell ban I think) I have observed that I digress from most of the HN community on the meaning of the term "trolling". No biggie HN people, thats just a different point of view. No hard feelings (but I still would like that account back or at least have it purged)[2]. I don't have a strong urge to post comments these days (that is a con) but I am less of a karma whore now (thats a pro). Most of the articles here were and still are very irrelevant to me. I am not doing any startups so don't need all that knowledge and am not into CS so don't read those articles as well. But every once in a while something interesting and generic (as generic as it gets on HN) comes up and I feel the urge to comment. PG made it really easy to make a new account. I chose a few words relevant the comment and then post it. I check the thread for a day or two (because they are not active after that, also I usually don't post very interesting stuff). I read the guidelines and all. I didn't find any clause stating that one cannot have multiple accounts. If I have missed something please do tell me. But even after that I know I will keep doing this, but at least I know I am doing something illegal. [1]http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=rick_2047 http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=rick_2047 (I think I made kind of a record with this one, of the most unpopular comment of all time, still would like conformation on that) [2] If PG is reading this, which he most probably isn't, if you can be so kind and purge my account that would be great. Thanks in advance.

jsavimbi 15y ago

> (below the fold) web 1.0 term now in disuse. As soon as a story, any story, is disseminated by a world renown publication such as the Financial Times, it might as well be the main story for the amount of time the long tail decides to keep it alive. It's a business problem; the tech part to AirBnB was just the application. Developers should get used to the fact that their apps grow up, move away and marry business people.

michael_h 15y ago
Point taken, but 'below the fold' is most assuredly not a web 1.0 term when we're talking about a printed publication.
- jsavimbi 15y ago
  In today's terms, a printed publication is entirely below the fold.
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SoftwareMaven 15y ago
The "fold" doesn't refer to the bottom of the screen, but to the crease in a newspaper. Above the fold were the headlines that drew buyers because they could be seen in news stands and such. Below the fold were those that couldn't. Being above the fold on the front page meant your story was a big deal. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/below_the_fold http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/below_the_fold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_the_fold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Above_the_fold It was a newspaper term that got repurposed on the web before user experience studies (not the "versioning" of the web) showed it wasn't nearly as important as it is in newspapers.

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______ 15y ago

What is "new" is that this is now getting a lot of exposure in the non-tech press, which it wasn't before. Techcrunch is relatively niche compared to FT, and hacker news is even more niche. What this means for AirBnb is that for a great many readers of FT, if they haven't heard of AirBnB before, will have an opinion that the service is inherently unsafe (even if this is the 0.001% story). And once someone makes up their opinion on a product or service, it is very hard to make them change