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Every major city in southern california dumps raw sewage into rivers and oceans with regularity. There is too much of it to even keep track of. Here is massive

Every major city in southern california dumps raw sewage into rivers and oceans with regularity. There is too much of it to even keep track of. Here is massive one from not even 30 days ago: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-12/la-me-power-plant-sewage-ocean https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-12/la-me-po... There is no municipal grey water systems or mandates. No reasonable person would say anything about southern california's water policy or water history is "responsibly managed". I don't know enough about northern california's situation first hand to offer comment but I would be shocked if it's any better. Oroville remind you of anything? It is completely true that agriculture consumes many times more water than residential use. California is a complete disaster there too. 25% of irrigable water is diverted to the ocean for the delta smelt, and another 25-40% is controlled by the resnick family's holdings and the sham of the kern county water bank.

etc-hosts 5y ago
I believe if you don't divert water... you get salt water encroachment, which will poison fresh water aquifers.
- hamburgerwah 5y ago
  Substantially less could be diverted to address that issue. There was much argument over the amount in the delta smelt litigation but probably as little as 1% would suffice for that purpose.
dubyah 5y ago
IRWD pioneered the purple pipe system and GWRS is the largest indirect potable reuse system in the world, but because the only means of unpermitted greywater use in California is from laundry machines, "No reasonable person would say anything about Southern California's water policy or water history is "responsibly managed"."? What municipalities mandate greywater systems?
ac29 5y ago
In the story you link the system discharged sewage into the ocean because it was overwhelmed with a unexpectedly large amount of debris that prevented 6% of the daily flow from being processed. In this case, it seems like the alternative was having the sewage overflow onto the land, which is a bit less desirable.

etc-hosts 5y ago

I believe if you don't divert water... you get salt water encroachment, which will poison fresh water aquifers.

hamburgerwah 5y ago
Substantially less could be diverted to address that issue. There was much argument over the amount in the delta smelt litigation but probably as little as 1% would suffice for that purpose.

dubyah 5y ago

IRWD pioneered the purple pipe system and GWRS is the largest indirect potable reuse system in the world, but because the only means of unpermitted greywater use in California is from laundry machines, "No reasonable person would say anything about Southern California's water policy or water history is "responsibly managed"."? What municipalities mandate greywater systems?

ac29 5y ago

In the story you link the system discharged sewage into the ocean because it was overwhelmed with a unexpectedly large amount of debris that prevented 6% of the daily flow from being processed. In this case, it seems like the alternative was having the sewage overflow onto the land, which is a bit less desirable.