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> cervical cancer where it seems like most cases are caused by HPV strains What's funny is the US initially only vaccinated women against HPV because "men can'

by klipt 5y ago

> cervical cancer where it seems like most cases are caused by HPV strains What's funny is the US initially only vaccinated women against HPV because "men can't get cervical cancer". Then it turned out lots of men were getting oral/throat cancers from oral HPV acquired from oral sex. Oops!

kcarter80 5y ago
Source?
- klipt 5y ago
  https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/what-men-need-to-know-about-hpv-related-throat-cancer.h12-1593780.html https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/wh... > HPV-related throat cancer is on the rise, and the typical patient is a male in his 50s or 60s.
inasio 5y ago
The bigger issue was anal cancer among men that have sex with men, if I remember correctly the risk was around 100x than in the general population, and also completely preventable by the HPV vaccine.
- lebuffon 5y ago
  I am still wondering how many other cancers are caused by viruses that we have not isolated or maybe choose not to search for because "conventional wisdom" The trail of bread crumbs seems to be there. - HPV - Hep C - Human T-cell leukemia/lymphoma virus (HTLV)
t-writescode 5y ago
Source for this, and the amount of time that we were only vaccinating women? If it was just a year or so, that's a very different story from decades. I recall there being a sudden, loud push 10ish years ago, for everyone to get the HPV vaccine. There were some anti-vax arguments against it for the same reason as there's resistance to sex ed; but no "men can't get cervical cancer" arguments, that I recall.
- klipt 5y ago
  As of 2017 WHO was still recommending prioritizing girls under 15 for vaccination: https://www.who.int/immunization/policy/position_papers/pp_hpv_may2017_summary.pdf https://www.who.int/immunization/policy/position_papers/pp_h... > Vaccination of secondary target populations e.g. females aged ≥15 years or males, is only recommended if feasible, affordable, cost-effective and does not divert resources from vaccinating primary target population or from effective cervical cancer screening programmes.
  - t-writescode 5y ago
    I think the tone I read implied into your post was that it was something malicious or arrogant. "Don't protect the men because they don't need to care about giving it to women", followed by "oh noes, men can get sick too! Better protect them!" rather than a resource allocation problem, as the quote is arguing.

by klipt 5y ago

kcarter80 5y ago

Source?

klipt 5y ago
https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/what-men-need-to-know-about-hpv-related-throat-cancer.h12-1593780.html https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/wh... > HPV-related throat cancer is on the rise, and the typical patient is a male in his 50s or 60s.

inasio 5y ago

The bigger issue was anal cancer among men that have sex with men, if I remember correctly the risk was around 100x than in the general population, and also completely preventable by the HPV vaccine.

lebuffon 5y ago
I am still wondering how many other cancers are caused by viruses that we have not isolated or maybe choose not to search for because "conventional wisdom" The trail of bread crumbs seems to be there. - HPV - Hep C - Human T-cell leukemia/lymphoma virus (HTLV)

t-writescode 5y ago

Source for this, and the amount of time that we were only vaccinating women? If it was just a year or so, that's a very different story from decades. I recall there being a sudden, loud push 10ish years ago, for everyone to get the HPV vaccine. There were some anti-vax arguments against it for the same reason as there's resistance to sex ed; but no "men can't get cervical cancer" arguments, that I recall.

klipt 5y ago
As of 2017 WHO was still recommending prioritizing girls under 15 for vaccination: https://www.who.int/immunization/policy/position_papers/pp_hpv_may2017_summary.pdf https://www.who.int/immunization/policy/position_papers/pp_h... > Vaccination of secondary target populations e.g. females aged ≥15 years or males, is only recommended if feasible, affordable, cost-effective and does not divert resources from vaccinating primary target population or from effective cervical cancer screening programmes.
- t-writescode 5y ago
  I think the tone I read implied into your post was that it was something malicious or arrogant. "Don't protect the men because they don't need to care about giving it to women", followed by "oh noes, men can get sick too! Better protect them!" rather than a resource allocation problem, as the quote is arguing.