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No it's because I can't vote, go to an hospital, shopping mall or restaurant without a QRCODE.

ac2u 5y ago
It doesn't really change the fact that you haven't put much thought into your opinions. Even when people have given answers to your easily googleable questions "why fear unvaxxed people if the disease is mild?", instead of taking in the information, maybe even thanking them, you move on to your next grievance instead. That's typical anti-vaxxer behaviour, so the reaction you're getting is understandable. Your outrage is preventing you from even admitting one mistake in your reasoning before you move onto the next point. I'd go into further detail about unvaxxed populations being breeding grounds for mutations which might even escape the serious disease efficacy that the current vaccines give us (didn't see you arguing against that), but I think it would be wasted on you. >I can't vote, go to an hospital, shopping mall or restaurant without a QRCODE. As others have informed you, you can with a negative test result. For what it's worth, I agree code based systems should be time limited to prevent long term abuse of such systems.
- jmnicolas 5y ago
  > you move on to your next grievance instead. > you move onto the next point. I'm not moving anywhere. I'm trying to show you nothing is logical. If the vaccine is 94% effective at preventing serious disease it means the harsh measures are absolutely uncalled for. Yes vulnerable people will die, it's a sad truth but you don't install the premises of dictatorship in a country, kill the economy just because a few people will die. They would die of something else if not COVID. Right now in France we have about 60 deaths a day due to COVID. 1400 are dying everyday too for other reasons. On a country of 67 millions, this is a non event. > I'd go into further detail about unvaxxed populations being breeding grounds for mutations You see I have read the exact opposite because the vaccine puts pressure on the virus to evolve to bypass it. Anyway it's absolutely impossible to prove one way or another. > As others have informed you, you can with a negative test result. I know this perfectly well mind you. My problem isn't the test it's the QRCODE: this is the slippery slope that gets us directly toward worse than China.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    > I'm trying to show you nothing is logical. Oh, this you've accomplished. > Right now in France we have about 60 deaths a day due to COVID. 1400 are dying everyday too for other reasons. In other words, the onerous mitigations you're complaining about are working?
    - jmnicolas 5y ago
      > In other words, the onerous mitigations you're complaining about are working? The QRCODE has been in place since 1 week. Deaths were previously at the same level. Then explain Sweden, India or Africa. It should be terrible there, it's not though. FYI in Paris region, between march 2020 and march 2021 intensive care beds have been reduced from 2500 to 1700. And this is like that all other France. It's a much better explanation why we have so much worse stats than Sweden.
  - ryandrake 5y ago
    You're objecting to a public health and safety rule that saves lives. Wait until you find out about those tyrannical seat belt laws, and the need to show a government-issued Car Passport in order to drive a car and a Beer Passport in order to buy alcohol. Dictatorship, indeed.
    - CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago
      "public health and safety rule that saves lives" Citation needed. https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/ https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

ac2u 5y ago

It doesn't really change the fact that you haven't put much thought into your opinions. Even when people have given answers to your easily googleable questions "why fear unvaxxed people if the disease is mild?", instead of taking in the information, maybe even thanking them, you move on to your next grievance instead. That's typical anti-vaxxer behaviour, so the reaction you're getting is understandable. Your outrage is preventing you from even admitting one mistake in your reasoning before you move onto the next point. I'd go into further detail about unvaxxed populations being breeding grounds for mutations which might even escape the serious disease efficacy that the current vaccines give us (didn't see you arguing against that), but I think it would be wasted on you. >I can't vote, go to an hospital, shopping mall or restaurant without a QRCODE. As others have informed you, you can with a negative test result. For what it's worth, I agree code based systems should be time limited to prevent long term abuse of such systems.

jmnicolas 5y ago
> you move on to your next grievance instead. > you move onto the next point. I'm not moving anywhere. I'm trying to show you nothing is logical. If the vaccine is 94% effective at preventing serious disease it means the harsh measures are absolutely uncalled for. Yes vulnerable people will die, it's a sad truth but you don't install the premises of dictatorship in a country, kill the economy just because a few people will die. They would die of something else if not COVID. Right now in France we have about 60 deaths a day due to COVID. 1400 are dying everyday too for other reasons. On a country of 67 millions, this is a non event. > I'd go into further detail about unvaxxed populations being breeding grounds for mutations You see I have read the exact opposite because the vaccine puts pressure on the virus to evolve to bypass it. Anyway it's absolutely impossible to prove one way or another. > As others have informed you, you can with a negative test result. I know this perfectly well mind you. My problem isn't the test it's the QRCODE: this is the slippery slope that gets us directly toward worse than China.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  > I'm trying to show you nothing is logical. Oh, this you've accomplished. > Right now in France we have about 60 deaths a day due to COVID. 1400 are dying everyday too for other reasons. In other words, the onerous mitigations you're complaining about are working?
  - jmnicolas 5y ago
    > In other words, the onerous mitigations you're complaining about are working? The QRCODE has been in place since 1 week. Deaths were previously at the same level. Then explain Sweden, India or Africa. It should be terrible there, it's not though. FYI in Paris region, between march 2020 and march 2021 intensive care beds have been reduced from 2500 to 1700. And this is like that all other France. It's a much better explanation why we have so much worse stats than Sweden.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  You're objecting to a public health and safety rule that saves lives. Wait until you find out about those tyrannical seat belt laws, and the need to show a government-issued Car Passport in order to drive a car and a Beer Passport in order to buy alcohol. Dictatorship, indeed.
  - CrazyPyroLinux 5y ago
    "public health and safety rule that saves lives" Citation needed. https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/ https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/