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It is unreasonable to expect every spurious claim to be engaged with. They are endless and an awful lot of them are based on irrational fear and tribalism so th

It is unreasonable to expect every spurious claim to be engaged with. They are endless and an awful lot of them are based on irrational fear and tribalism so they likely can't be persuaded no matter. I am not pleased about the "both sides" rallying cry heard on every topic. It presumes that there are only two sides (recall that the objections will be endless) and it presumes they are both in earnest and have a reasoned predicate for their existence. This is not usually the case. There is of course real, actual debate going on about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. These are based on research and data and there is no shouting. Then there's the "anti-vaxx" movement, rooted in party politics and paranoia. Screw that.

commandlinefan 5y ago
> It is unreasonable to expect every spurious claim to be engaged with It is absolutely reasonable, and if you, personally, want me, personally, to get a Covid vaccine, wear a mask, and drive an electric car, you, personally, will have to engage each and every spurious claim that people are risking their livelihoods and overcoming censorship to share with me. If you don't care, leave us alone to wallow in our disinformation until we die of Covid.
- NoSorryCannot 5y ago
  No, it isn't reasonable and I don't care on an interpersonal level what you do as an individual, I only care about policies informing me on what I can expect in communal spaces. As more businesses, employers, and institutions arrive at policies one way or the other regarding the vaccine, then you can make a personal decision about what to do about that. No, you will not be able to raise any random objection and override the entire enterprise. It doesn't and can't work that way.
  - mistermann 5y ago
    > No, you will not be able to raise any random objection and override the entire enterprise. It doesn't and can't work that way. As an individual, you're correct. But a large enough group of such individuals seem to be able to have a noteworthy effect, at least based on all the complaining I hear about them.
    - NoSorryCannot 5y ago
      Definitely. We all stand to be disappointed by the direction the wind blows, depending on how we feel about this issue.

commandlinefan 5y ago

> It is unreasonable to expect every spurious claim to be engaged with It is absolutely reasonable, and if you, personally, want me, personally, to get a Covid vaccine, wear a mask, and drive an electric car, you, personally, will have to engage each and every spurious claim that people are risking their livelihoods and overcoming censorship to share with me. If you don't care, leave us alone to wallow in our disinformation until we die of Covid.

NoSorryCannot 5y ago
No, it isn't reasonable and I don't care on an interpersonal level what you do as an individual, I only care about policies informing me on what I can expect in communal spaces. As more businesses, employers, and institutions arrive at policies one way or the other regarding the vaccine, then you can make a personal decision about what to do about that. No, you will not be able to raise any random objection and override the entire enterprise. It doesn't and can't work that way.
- mistermann 5y ago
  > No, you will not be able to raise any random objection and override the entire enterprise. It doesn't and can't work that way. As an individual, you're correct. But a large enough group of such individuals seem to be able to have a noteworthy effect, at least based on all the complaining I hear about them.
  - NoSorryCannot 5y ago
    Definitely. We all stand to be disappointed by the direction the wind blows, depending on how we feel about this issue.