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It's great to have new OSs that are actually new OSs, and that eschew the brain cancer UX that has taken over since about 2010. Since it seems to be a pet proje

It's great to have new OSs that are actually new OSs, and that eschew the brain cancer UX that has taken over since about 2010. Since it seems to be a pet project and toy of the author and its community, I guess I can't really fault it per-se, but it is really strange to me that in its love for 90s UX it failed to implement a sane form of application management. It seems to have weirdly mixed bad ideas from Windows (installers) and UNIX (fixed paths), even though multiple 90s OSs got it right (MacOS, RiscOS, NeXT, even DOS to an extent). It is also a little off-putting that it explicitly "doesn't cater to non-technical users" when a pretty core part of personal computing back then was on ramping non-technical users to leveraging the power of a computer. I mean, don't get me wrong, a whole f'ing lot of evil has been done in the name of "making computing easier for non-technical people", but Serenity takes it to the extent that it doesn't have a live environment or installer and you have to compile it from source. I mean yeah, sure, hobby OS and all, but it just strikes me as missing a very essential component of 90s personal computing.

selfhoster11 5y ago
First of all, not all the changes have to be implemented immediately. Andreas often livestreams hack sessions where he changes some part of the OS or the APIs, so things are very dynamic. Secondly, why do you expect that this OS is ready to show to any non-technical user? If you did, they wouldn't realise what they are looking at, nor why it's a valuable contribution to the ecosystem and the fight against the "modern" UX trends. The effort would be wasted until the project becomes more prominent
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  > First of all, not all the changes have to be implemented immediately. I'll comment on future features when they exist, or at least are documented as a goal. > Secondly, why do you expect that this OS is ready to show to any non-technical user? I don't. I am commenting on what exists, and what exists is an FAQ entry specifically stating that the project does not cater to non-technical users. Even so, I think you underestimate non-technical users. Another modern trend I despise.

selfhoster11 5y ago

First of all, not all the changes have to be implemented immediately. Andreas often livestreams hack sessions where he changes some part of the OS or the APIs, so things are very dynamic. Secondly, why do you expect that this OS is ready to show to any non-technical user? If you did, they wouldn't realise what they are looking at, nor why it's a valuable contribution to the ecosystem and the fight against the "modern" UX trends. The effort would be wasted until the project becomes more prominent

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> First of all, not all the changes have to be implemented immediately. I'll comment on future features when they exist, or at least are documented as a goal. > Secondly, why do you expect that this OS is ready to show to any non-technical user? I don't. I am commenting on what exists, and what exists is an FAQ entry specifically stating that the project does not cater to non-technical users. Even so, I think you underestimate non-technical users. Another modern trend I despise.