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Take a closer look - SerenityOS doesn't reject all modern stuff. The kernel has plenty of modern security mitigations (pledge(), unveil()), and there is basic h

Take a closer look - SerenityOS doesn't reject all modern stuff. The kernel has plenty of modern security mitigations (pledge(), unveil()), and there is basic high DPI support already. Internationalization and accessibility are very consumer product focused features, which is not what the project caters to at this time.

emptyparadise 5y ago
Awesome! Definitely did not intend to make it sound like SerenityOS doesn't care about modern affordances. As for internationalization/accessibility, do you mean that these features are not supported in a "we can't display Unicode text" sense or a "we don't currently have active UI translations" sense?
- elisee 5y ago
  Andreas has recently mentioned that SerenityOS is meant to be an English-language OS. (Might have been on Discord or a Q&A video, not sure.) I believe his rationale is that other languages are generally awkward at talking about technical stuff, and SerenityOS is addressed at technical users anyway. In my own experience as a French native speaker, I do tend to prefer all my software to be in English rather than getting the awkwardly-translated-in-French version. As far as accessibility goes, like anything in the project, it's up to someone passionate to step up and work on it.
  - emptyparadise 5y ago
    But you'd still want to read and write French text on your computer even if the UI is in English, right?
    - vkoskiv 5y ago
      SerenityOS does have support for unicode, and the character sets are improving over time.
      - emptyparadise 5y ago
        That's what I was hoping to hear, very nice!
miki123211 5y ago
> Internationalization and accessibility are very consumer product focused features This way of thinking is why I, as a blind developer, need to deal with so many horribly inaccessible tools, I guess. If you think that only the consumer-focused part of your tools needs to be accessible, you're wrong.
- filmroellchen 5y ago
  Andreas mentioned on one of the recent Office Hours livestreams that accessibility is certainly compatible with the project goals, however, nobody has had interest in working on it yet.
- vkoskiv 5y ago
  Sorry about that, I phrased it really poorly. I think I was trying to convey that the project is still somewhat niche, so no one has taken up that effort yet. But you're absolutely right, everything should be accessible.

emptyparadise 5y ago

Awesome! Definitely did not intend to make it sound like SerenityOS doesn't care about modern affordances. As for internationalization/accessibility, do you mean that these features are not supported in a "we can't display Unicode text" sense or a "we don't currently have active UI translations" sense?

elisee 5y ago
Andreas has recently mentioned that SerenityOS is meant to be an English-language OS. (Might have been on Discord or a Q&A video, not sure.) I believe his rationale is that other languages are generally awkward at talking about technical stuff, and SerenityOS is addressed at technical users anyway. In my own experience as a French native speaker, I do tend to prefer all my software to be in English rather than getting the awkwardly-translated-in-French version. As far as accessibility goes, like anything in the project, it's up to someone passionate to step up and work on it.
- emptyparadise 5y ago
  But you'd still want to read and write French text on your computer even if the UI is in English, right?
  - vkoskiv 5y ago
    SerenityOS does have support for unicode, and the character sets are improving over time.
    - emptyparadise 5y ago
      That's what I was hoping to hear, very nice!

miki123211 5y ago

> Internationalization and accessibility are very consumer product focused features This way of thinking is why I, as a blind developer, need to deal with so many horribly inaccessible tools, I guess. If you think that only the consumer-focused part of your tools needs to be accessible, you're wrong.

filmroellchen 5y ago
Andreas mentioned on one of the recent Office Hours livestreams that accessibility is certainly compatible with the project goals, however, nobody has had interest in working on it yet.
vkoskiv 5y ago
Sorry about that, I phrased it really poorly. I think I was trying to convey that the project is still somewhat niche, so no one has taken up that effort yet. But you're absolutely right, everything should be accessible.