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Or it might just be that the guy is under a lot of stress and making bad decision. Watching your company potentially go up in flames with one incident is probab

by nkassis 15y ago

Or it might just be that the guy is under a lot of stress and making bad decision. Watching your company potentially go up in flames with one incident is probably not an easy situation in which to make decisions. We don't know the whole story. I understand the host stance also, basically on both sides they see things they've invested a lot into (her personal life and belongings, the company) be destroyed. I'm not saying they are on the same level here (Her personal life and stuff is not easy to fix and she can't fail with that, at least not as easy as doing another company to me).

alnayyir 15y ago
In the private sector, excellence in the absence of pressure isn't worth any accolades. Incidentally, the same is true of moral character.
- nkassis 15y ago
  I understand what you are saying. You are completely right, people can act and claim to have ethics but it's only under major situations where those ethics are challenged that they can be judged. But currently we have tidbits of information about the situation, we don't know how it's being played out inside AirBnB or exactly what was said to whom and who's pressuring who (inside AirBnB I mean, not the cofounder pressuring the host) and what not. I just don't like this internet justice vibe going on. It feels very much like what Nancy Grace would do.
Lucadg 15y ago
I agree. I can't even start to imagine the pressure. It's easy for us to say "he should have done like that" because we can think clearly from a distance. This guy was one of us reading HN and hoping to make it a couple of years ago. Now he's managing millions. Nobody really prepared him for that. I can imagine phone calls from people above him counseling to kill the story. He may even had wanted to take a different approach but bend to pressure for what we know. Money talks loudly. I don't like the was he's dealing with it, I just want to say that it must be very hard to take good decisions in such a situation.
- suprgeek 15y ago
  If managing millions robs you of the empathy that is necessary in this situation then there is something very wrong in the whole situation. A user of your service had their life upended as a direct result of loopholes in your vetting model. The LEAST you can do is reimburse them in full for their loss, take the monetary hit, and plug the holes in your model. If you are managing this in any other way you deserve to have your job forfeited.

by nkassis 15y ago

alnayyir 15y ago

In the private sector, excellence in the absence of pressure isn't worth any accolades. Incidentally, the same is true of moral character.

nkassis 15y ago
I understand what you are saying. You are completely right, people can act and claim to have ethics but it's only under major situations where those ethics are challenged that they can be judged. But currently we have tidbits of information about the situation, we don't know how it's being played out inside AirBnB or exactly what was said to whom and who's pressuring who (inside AirBnB I mean, not the cofounder pressuring the host) and what not. I just don't like this internet justice vibe going on. It feels very much like what Nancy Grace would do.

Lucadg 15y ago

I agree. I can't even start to imagine the pressure. It's easy for us to say "he should have done like that" because we can think clearly from a distance. This guy was one of us reading HN and hoping to make it a couple of years ago. Now he's managing millions. Nobody really prepared him for that. I can imagine phone calls from people above him counseling to kill the story. He may even had wanted to take a different approach but bend to pressure for what we know. Money talks loudly. I don't like the was he's dealing with it, I just want to say that it must be very hard to take good decisions in such a situation.

suprgeek 15y ago
If managing millions robs you of the empathy that is necessary in this situation then there is something very wrong in the whole situation. A user of your service had their life upended as a direct result of loopholes in your vetting model. The LEAST you can do is reimburse them in full for their loss, take the monetary hit, and plug the holes in your model. If you are managing this in any other way you deserve to have your job forfeited.