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> I fully acknowledge that there could be some side effect from the vaccines down the line that I'm now on the hook for. However, people who have been working i

> I fully acknowledge that there could be some side effect from the vaccines down the line that I'm now on the hook for. However, people who have been working in this field for their entire careers say it's unlikely, and that's the best information we have right now. I trust the experts who have trusted their own expertise enough to get their own shots. Long term side effects won't be known for 5-10 years, especially as vaccinated people have kids. Reminder of the Thalidomide drug: > Thalidomide is a sedative drug discovered at the end of the late 1950s, which caused a worldwide tragedy. The drug has been prescribed to many pregnant women in order to relieve pregnancy nausea. It was later found that thalidomide caused irreversible damages to the fetus and thousands of children were born with severe congenital malformations. Many of them did not survive more than a few days after they were born. https://thalidomide.ca/en/the-canadian-tragedy/ https://thalidomide.ca/en/the-canadian-tragedy/ Many of the scientists have now admitted that they refrained from publicly acknowledging the evidence that the virus may have been engineered in the Wuhan lab. Alina Chan was one of those experts who says this now: > "... it was scarier to be associated with Trump and to become a tool for racists, so people didn't want to publicly call for an investigation into lab origins." https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory-science-scientists-rcna1191 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/lab-leak-theory... It never occurred to these "scientists" that claiming the virus came from bats because they eat bats in China is the more "xenophobic" thing and not the possible lab leak caused due to poor handling by "scientists". The next time someone asks us to trust the science, our response should be "okay, but can I trust the scientists?" And if they can be so easily manipulated based on politics, what else are they and the dissenters being silenced on? Did they silence scientists who were finding flaws during the vaccine development process?

ashildr 5y ago
> Reminder of the Thalidomide drug Bringing up Thalidomide / Contergan in a discussion on current medicine is the best indication that you don‘t have the least idea on the topic. All rules and tests that eg the Biontech-Vaccine had to pass (and has passed) have been installed _after_ and _because_ of the Thalidomide catastrophy. Bringing up the topic of Thalidomide exactly disproves any point you are thinking you make, because the level of safety in medicine we have today has been raised to a level incomparable to what we had with Thalidomide. What you are saying instead is: “Current medicine must be _very_ safe because todays‘ safety protocols are so much higher than what we had back then.“
- busymom0 5y ago
  The whole "you don't know shit because X can't happen again because it happened before" is exactly how X+1 happens. That logic gets used by intellectual authoritarians to make claims only to eventually fall flat on their face. Here are more recent examples: https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-worst-drug-recalls-in-history/ https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-w...

ashildr 5y ago

> Reminder of the Thalidomide drug Bringing up Thalidomide / Contergan in a discussion on current medicine is the best indication that you don‘t have the least idea on the topic. All rules and tests that eg the Biontech-Vaccine had to pass (and has passed) have been installed _after_ and _because_ of the Thalidomide catastrophy. Bringing up the topic of Thalidomide exactly disproves any point you are thinking you make, because the level of safety in medicine we have today has been raised to a level incomparable to what we had with Thalidomide. What you are saying instead is: “Current medicine must be _very_ safe because todays‘ safety protocols are so much higher than what we had back then.“

busymom0 5y ago
The whole "you don't know shit because X can't happen again because it happened before" is exactly how X+1 happens. That logic gets used by intellectual authoritarians to make claims only to eventually fall flat on their face. Here are more recent examples: https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-worst-drug-recalls-in-history/ https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/medical-disasters/10-w...