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If there's one thing China got right it's the non-interference policy in internal affairs of other countries. Others should learn by example.

whoaisme 5y ago
Yeah I also like that about china. For example this time it didn't interfere https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/genghis-khan-exhibition-nantes-cancelled-censorship-chinese-government https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/genghis-khan-exhibition... Could site countless of other examples of the chinese not meddling
pmlnr 5y ago
Huh? What would you call them trying to place a Fudan University in Hungary then?
- shashwatak 5y ago
  Did China drone strike civilians and hospitals in Hungary? Did the USA build any Universities in Afghanistan or Iraq?
  - pmlnr 5y ago
    The word was interfere - it's a broad thing.
  - neolog 5y ago
    China is threatening to attack Taiwan. https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/06/the-signal-and-the-noise-understanding-chinas-military.html https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/06/the-signal-and-the-noise-u...
    - sofixa 5y ago
      Which they consider to be a rebellious province ( so an internal matter).
- neolog 5y ago
  https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institutes_are_in_the_united_states https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institu...
- FentanylFloyd 5y ago
  The same thing as other countries placing their universities in foreign countries
choeger 5y ago
Yeah, China just defines a country as "not another country" when they want to interfere. See Hong Kong, Taiwan, or pretty much every other neighboring country and their territorial waters or exclusive economic zone. It is important to keep in mind that China is a startup empire. They are still trying to dominate their immediate neighborhood, whereas the US is an established empire, mostly concerned with global matters. Interestingly, Russia is a declined empire and had to turn back to affairs closer to its borders again.
- Sergiu37 5y ago
  Well Hong Kong and Taiwan are part of China, not foreign countries.
- sofixa 5y ago
  Hong Kong and Taiwan aren't countries. Both are historically Chinese territory and both are, as far as international law, the UN, and international recognition are concerned, Chinese land. Hong Kong was supposed to be a separate administrative region according to the treaty with the UK, which has been violated by China, but it was never a country. Chinese land -> colony -> autonomous Chinese region -> China Taiwan, officially the Republic of China, is the party that lost the Chinese Civil war and ran away to an island which is considered a part of China ( Taiwan, Formosa before that) even if it was occupied by the Japanese after the first Sino-Japanese war. To this day, both PRC and ROC claim they are the sole China. Everyone agrees the PRC is the sole China. Recently there has been a shift in Taiwan, with a new party in power, and generally people there seem to be more in favour of abandoning the ROC and China claims, and just being an independent country called Taiwan. Sadly that won't be accepted by the PRC, since, you know, they claim Taiwan is theirs ( and it legally still is considered to be). For Americans, an analogy for Taiwan - the Confederacy lost the Civil war, but ran away to Hawai, assimilated the locals, calls itself the CSA and claims the whole of the US in its constitution.
  - Ancapistani 5y ago
    > Everyone agrees the PRC is the sole China. This is not even close to true. > For Americans, an analogy for Taiwan - the Confederacy lost the Civil war, but ran away to Hawai, assimilated the locals, calls itself the CSA and claims the whole of the US in its constitution. A decent anology. If that happened, then many people on both sides would still being willing to fight and die for it today. That sounds a lot like "two countries" to me.
returnInfinity 5y ago
Indian border encroachment? South china sea islands?
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whoaisme 5y ago

Yeah I also like that about china. For example this time it didn't interfere https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/genghis-khan-exhibition-nantes-cancelled-censorship-chinese-government https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/genghis-khan-exhibition... Could site countless of other examples of the chinese not meddling

pmlnr 5y ago

Huh? What would you call them trying to place a Fudan University in Hungary then?

shashwatak 5y ago
Did China drone strike civilians and hospitals in Hungary? Did the USA build any Universities in Afghanistan or Iraq?
- pmlnr 5y ago
  The word was interfere - it's a broad thing.
- neolog 5y ago
  China is threatening to attack Taiwan. https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/06/the-signal-and-the-noise-understanding-chinas-military.html https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/06/the-signal-and-the-noise-u...
  - sofixa 5y ago
    Which they consider to be a rebellious province ( so an internal matter).
neolog 5y ago
https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institutes_are_in_the_united_states https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institu...
FentanylFloyd 5y ago
The same thing as other countries placing their universities in foreign countries

choeger 5y ago

Yeah, China just defines a country as "not another country" when they want to interfere. See Hong Kong, Taiwan, or pretty much every other neighboring country and their territorial waters or exclusive economic zone. It is important to keep in mind that China is a startup empire. They are still trying to dominate their immediate neighborhood, whereas the US is an established empire, mostly concerned with global matters. Interestingly, Russia is a declined empire and had to turn back to affairs closer to its borders again.

Sergiu37 5y ago
Well Hong Kong and Taiwan are part of China, not foreign countries.
sofixa 5y ago
Hong Kong and Taiwan aren't countries. Both are historically Chinese territory and both are, as far as international law, the UN, and international recognition are concerned, Chinese land. Hong Kong was supposed to be a separate administrative region according to the treaty with the UK, which has been violated by China, but it was never a country. Chinese land -> colony -> autonomous Chinese region -> China Taiwan, officially the Republic of China, is the party that lost the Chinese Civil war and ran away to an island which is considered a part of China ( Taiwan, Formosa before that) even if it was occupied by the Japanese after the first Sino-Japanese war. To this day, both PRC and ROC claim they are the sole China. Everyone agrees the PRC is the sole China. Recently there has been a shift in Taiwan, with a new party in power, and generally people there seem to be more in favour of abandoning the ROC and China claims, and just being an independent country called Taiwan. Sadly that won't be accepted by the PRC, since, you know, they claim Taiwan is theirs ( and it legally still is considered to be). For Americans, an analogy for Taiwan - the Confederacy lost the Civil war, but ran away to Hawai, assimilated the locals, calls itself the CSA and claims the whole of the US in its constitution.
- Ancapistani 5y ago
  > Everyone agrees the PRC is the sole China. This is not even close to true. > For Americans, an analogy for Taiwan - the Confederacy lost the Civil war, but ran away to Hawai, assimilated the locals, calls itself the CSA and claims the whole of the US in its constitution. A decent anology. If that happened, then many people on both sides would still being willing to fight and die for it today. That sounds a lot like "two countries" to me.

returnInfinity 5y ago

Indian border encroachment? South china sea islands?

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