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>The current mRNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are effective at preventing severe outcomes like hospitalization and death According to this very article this isn'

>The current mRNA based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines are effective at preventing severe outcomes like hospitalization and death According to this very article this isn't even really true any more. Of the currently hospitalized population in Israel 60% are fully vaccinated. With 78% of the population vaccinated that implies the protection is actually surprisingly weak. " “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”

danmaz74 5y ago
What is the age of the hospitalised, and what is the vaccination rate for that age range? I expect most of the hospitalised to be elderly, and most of the non vaccinated to be young.
_kbh_ 5y ago
Wouldn't you have to look at the age of the population that is in hospital and that populations vaccination rate to accurately gauge this?. The overall vaccination rate could be vastly lower or higher than the overall population depending on what priority groups israel had.
mping 5y ago
If vaccines bring hospitalizations down they are already a win. The percentage doesn't say much about the number of hospitalizations. In a country where lots of people are vaccinated, I would expect lots of vaccinated people in the hospital too. Like others said, it also depends on the cohort (age, vulnerability, etc.).
convnet 5y ago
That's a misinterpretation of the statistics. The most vulnerable population has a much higher vaccination rate than the population as a whole, with well over 90% of Israelis over 70 vaccinated. People over 70 have a much higher chance of being hospitalized, so to only see 60% of hospitalizations be of vaccinated people shows how effective the vaccine still is at preventing serious disease.

danmaz74 5y ago

What is the age of the hospitalised, and what is the vaccination rate for that age range? I expect most of the hospitalised to be elderly, and most of the non vaccinated to be young.

_kbh_ 5y ago

Wouldn't you have to look at the age of the population that is in hospital and that populations vaccination rate to accurately gauge this?. The overall vaccination rate could be vastly lower or higher than the overall population depending on what priority groups israel had.

mping 5y ago

If vaccines bring hospitalizations down they are already a win. The percentage doesn't say much about the number of hospitalizations. In a country where lots of people are vaccinated, I would expect lots of vaccinated people in the hospital too. Like others said, it also depends on the cohort (age, vulnerability, etc.).

convnet 5y ago

That's a misinterpretation of the statistics. The most vulnerable population has a much higher vaccination rate than the population as a whole, with well over 90% of Israelis over 70 vaccinated. People over 70 have a much higher chance of being hospitalized, so to only see 60% of hospitalizations be of vaccinated people shows how effective the vaccine still is at preventing serious disease.