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People are still dying from breakthrough cases. Children (w/o vaccine) are dying of delta. Not to go full scaremonger but we don't know that much about long cov

• jdhn 5y ago
  >Children (w/o vaccine) are dying of delta The number of children who are dying of covid has been ridiculously low for a virus that spreads so easily. Hasn't covid deaths for children under the age of 12 been under 1000 since the pandemic started?
  • koolba 5y ago
    It’s even lower if you factor in that the vast majority of those that died had existing underlying health issues. The level of social isolation the elderly have unilaterally imposed on the youth is a travesty.
    • themaninthedark 5y ago
      It's not the elderly that have been imposing isolation, they have all been sent to long term care homes to die. Our leaders however are not letting this crisis go to waste.
    • mikeyjk 5y ago
      Is this not a bit confused? The children being referred to would need supervision wouldn't they? They are also totally capable at spreading it to older people. I find a lot of the discourse / antilockdown sentiment to be really confusing. I understand lockdowns are a bad experience but are we not agreed that they save lives, and the quality of life (long covid)?
  • bob33212 5y ago
    Yes, the old and sick are the real people at risk.
• anyfoo 5y ago
  Long COVID and the unknowns around that are why my wife and me have become very careful again despite having received both shots. It's good that the vaccine apparently means that less people will die, but avoiding to live with, for example, brain fog for an unknown (possibly lifelong) amount of time seems worth the precautions.
• morpheos137 5y ago
  Every human that ever lives will die someday. A good life involves a prudent balancing of risks and costs. Nobody alive can ever be 100% safe before or after the advent of covid. Covid maybe a good thing if it forces mature adults to deal with their inevitable mortality like mature adults. Instead we have been seeing pervasive infantilisation of society. Safety has a cost. The world is not black and white. Disclaimer: the above is my opinion. Not flaming.
  • pizza 5y ago
    Well let's talk about infantilization then: I don't mind fearing or being at peace with death. Our society could use that. It's just that we're in a global plague right now and a large chunk of people just want to do whatever they want no matter if others are affected by their actions. Basically a stage of development such as children before they realize others are also people. It's like ten people walking a tightrope and the last one is jumping up and down. A non-infantilized society is one where we can expect everyone to be a grownup and avoid the bad quadrant of the prisoner's dilemma, and guess what? We've found out that you get an infantile society if people are just asked nicely
    • morpheos137 5y ago
      I would respectfully submit that the death rate of covid does not justify the scale of the response. It is unreasonable to shut down society for a disease whose median age victim is about 80 and whose whole population case fatality rate is in the low single digit percent at worse. The elderly and well off want to minimize their risk at the expense of the young and the poor. Who do you think delivered your Amazon packages while you worked from home? At both extremes a part of the population is unwilling to compromise and is willing to force another part to pay for their "freedom." In my opinion the yuppies obessively using instacart and Amazon are just as selfish as the Trump supporters and rednecks who may have denied covid existed. Both groups want what they want the cost be damned.
      • pizza 5y ago
        Wuhan has been reopened for a long time now. We had every piece of information to make a good decision at the time in February 2020. Now we are thrashed about in a sea of half-measures, societal tension, and the total closing up of public life. We were so lost even by the time the CDC was encouraging people to not wear masks because it'll give you higher risk of contracting covid. Now our future's truly new.
• ModernMech 5y ago
  > Not to go full scaremonger but we don't know that much about long covid at this point. My sister had a very mild case of Covid last year after lockdowns started lifting and she went to the hairdresser (masked, obviously not vaccinated). She had the telltale loss of taste, but really no other symptom, and she recovered. I saw her yesterday in person for the first time in a number of months and she looked so skinny I had to say something, it was worrying to me. She told me she has trouble eating anymore because everything tastes like shit. She says that things she used to love now taste the way cigarettes smell, and she simply can't stomach it. Her words: "People need to realize that even if you don't die from Covid, it can change your life. I wish I never got this."
  • tinus_hn 5y ago
    Well, that proves it! Infinite quarantine it is!