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Pompeii’s fast food joint unearthed in 2019 opens to public

132 points by diodorus 5y ago

labster 5y ago
Are they serving the original Roman menu or pizza and burgers?
- h2odragon 5y ago
  Try the Wolf Nipple Chips, they're lovely
  - labster 5y ago
    I think you are mistranslating lupa.
  - Garvey 5y ago
    Get 'em while hot?
AnotherGoodName 5y ago
I wonder what they'll make of Plymouth in 1500 years time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Montserrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Montserrat
Foomf 5y ago
The headline makes it sound like they restored the fast food joint and it is going to be serving food to the public.
- evolve2k 5y ago
  Agree. Would be awesome for someone to open a replica nearby with close enough food served within.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    Not sure about Pompeii specifically but from what I've heard of food in the Roman empire, tastes have changed dramatically since then. I'm afraid a historic restaurant would often be either disgusting or very far from historical. There might exist more common ground, but people in the empire ate things like field mouse.
    - pimeys 5y ago
      I also heard the more esoteric food was something the rich ate, but the food for common people is something that is still served and delicious. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210719-what-did-the-ancient-romans-eat https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210719-what-did-the-anc...
    - inciampati 5y ago
      If you enjoy modern foods from all around the world, it's very unlikely that you wouldn't enjoy Roman food. Things have changed since 2kya, but not that much. Although ingredients and tastes have changed somewhat, many of the same food products are used in extremely similar forms in exactly the same region. Not everyone was chasing the complexity of the elite Roman table. And to those who claim that complex flavors like garum are now out of vogue or disgusting, I present the modern equivalent: colatura di alici (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colatura_di_alici https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colatura_di_alici), an ingredient in classic, typical dishes from south Italy. Field mouse sounds tasty. Can't be far from cui.
      - black6 5y ago
        Worcestershire sauce is another garum analogue.
      - viggity 5y ago
        I've had cui (mostly to share pictures). I thought it was good, but idk how field mouse would be. Cui (guinea pig for the uninitiated) has a decent amount of meat on it. Field mice are so tiny, a chicken wing has has to have more meat on it. I'm presuming that when they ate field mice 2000 years ago, they're eating the entire thing with all organs except for maybe the intestines.
- Bjorkbat 5y ago
  What a shame, I was really hoping to get drunk on spicy wine and eat a bunch of snails and baked cheese.
  - kyleee 5y ago
    Don't you dare tempt me with a good time
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - leadingthenet 5y ago
    …that sounds absolutely delicious?
- rossdavidh 5y ago
  I kept reading through, waiting for the "and now they will serve food here" part, until about one paragraph before the end.
- mseidl 5y ago
  I'd like some fossilized pizza please.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    > fossilized pizza It's here: https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/07/ancient-bread/ https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/07/ancient-bread/ https://museum-of-artifacts.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-carbonised-loaf-of-bread-from-pompeii.html https://museum-of-artifacts.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-carbonise... You joke, but the ovens in Pompeii (pictured at link above) look a lot like the wood-fired pizza domes down the road in Naples. The Romans could have made flatbread with cheese, herbs and fish or meat bits on it. But no tomatoes until they came back from the Americas in the 1500s. https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/noodles/2018/07/03/history-of-the-tomato-in-italy-and-china-tracing-the-role-of-tomatoes-in-italian-and-chinese-cooking/ https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/noodles/2018/07/03/history-of...
- bruce343434 5y ago
  Typical archeology journalism.
- mbostleman 5y ago
  That was exactly what I expected.
- vanderZwan 5y ago
  It wouldn't be the same without Terry Jones narrating it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCv-JfyOMk&t=430s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCv-JfyOMk&t=430s
teleforce 5y ago
To learn how people in Roman Pompeii used to live and eat please check this excellent video [1]. [1]https://youtu.be/k0zBG5R7TXU https://youtu.be/k0zBG5R7TXU
thomasfl 5y ago
This makes me remember that people with the same dreams and urge for fast food as myself, has been living on this planet for thousands of year. And of course - memento mori (remember that you have to die).
lvxferre 5y ago
I love how similar the building is to a lot of bars you see in Latin America. I could easily picture a bunch of stools on one side of the S-shaped table/stove, with people chugging wine and snacking, while on the other side you had two workers preparing food.
xtiansimon 5y ago
Reading other posts here about local tastes and modern tastes, I feel compelled to relate something from my community on Long Island, NY. First, I’m from Northern California and various ethnic cuisine taste very different there. Thai flavors different from Vietnamese, different from American Chinese, etc. from cheap eats to sit down. Here in my community it all tastes the same! Haha. Thick gravies. Bland flavors. But what flipped my lid yesterday was a new Indian restaurant (yay. I love vegetarian dishes and Marsala flavors). And what is their fare? American Hamburgers and gravy heavy American Indian. They made a meaty diner. Town already has 2 diners, 5 American Chinese, 3 franchise hamburger, 2 private hamburger/shake, 5 pizza, 6 bodega/hot holding, 2 American hot holding w/burgers. What were they thinking? Modern tastes are wak, with stupid money financing them.
- MisterTea 5y ago
  I'm From NYC, lived in West Babylon, worked in Farmingdale, and I have a hard time believing you. There is good ethnic food on LI, just look for it. I love Turkish and there's a little shop on Rt 109 and Strait Path in N. Lindenhurst, Pasha Kebob and Grill. Want fast and cheap Polish lunch? Go down Great Neck rd to Oak st in Copiague and there are a few delis selling delicious hot food for $3-8 per plate. Main st in Farmingdale has Rolling Spring Roll, Awesome Vietnamese place, love their Pho (also one in Syosset). Down the street is Grecian Grill, a good Greek Joint. And these are just the few I care to mention. Granted LI is big and I named places closer to Farmingdale. But you get the idea.
  - xtiansimon 5y ago
    Love it. Unintended consequence of complaining about lack of tasty food, someone shares their favorites. Now I have some new places to go! I feel like we're having a debate about the health of some natural ecosystem. You're describing an area 25mi x 14mi--We got signs of healthy ecosystem here. 1 wolf over here. 2 black bear over there. 1 brown beaver. My rant is about just what you can find in a 1mi radius (time to spill the beans--of Glen Cove). And all I'm seeing in my ecosystem are squirrels. If I'm going to drive, then I'd go to Hicksville, Floral Park or Flushing for Indian Cuisine. Don't get me wrong. I invite you to visit Glen Cove for Central American cusine, and Italian cuisine of Campania and Tuscany. And you can get a hamburger in 8 places. haha Full disclosure, I work in consulting for the restaurant industry (not in Glen Cove). I love tasty food, and I also like to understand business decisions. So when I find bland tasteless food, it makes me sad. When I find a new businesses which decided to compete for a share of the same customers selling similar fare, I'm baffled.
SeanLuke 5y ago
Pompeii's public area is riddled with thermopoli ("fast food joints"), some of which are in quite good condition. The difference is that this one is in fantastic condition, which is wonderful: but it's far from unique.
cblconfederate 5y ago
Apparently you can have a hot dog and Caesar's salad with rooster

132 points by diodorus 5y ago

labster 5y ago

Are they serving the original Roman menu or pizza and burgers?

h2odragon 5y ago
Try the Wolf Nipple Chips, they're lovely
- labster 5y ago
  I think you are mistranslating lupa.
- Garvey 5y ago
  Get 'em while hot?

AnotherGoodName 5y ago

I wonder what they'll make of Plymouth in 1500 years time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Montserrat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Montserrat

Foomf 5y ago

The headline makes it sound like they restored the fast food joint and it is going to be serving food to the public.

evolve2k 5y ago
Agree. Would be awesome for someone to open a replica nearby with close enough food served within.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  Not sure about Pompeii specifically but from what I've heard of food in the Roman empire, tastes have changed dramatically since then. I'm afraid a historic restaurant would often be either disgusting or very far from historical. There might exist more common ground, but people in the empire ate things like field mouse.
  - pimeys 5y ago
    I also heard the more esoteric food was something the rich ate, but the food for common people is something that is still served and delicious. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210719-what-did-the-ancient-romans-eat https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20210719-what-did-the-anc...
  - inciampati 5y ago
    If you enjoy modern foods from all around the world, it's very unlikely that you wouldn't enjoy Roman food. Things have changed since 2kya, but not that much. Although ingredients and tastes have changed somewhat, many of the same food products are used in extremely similar forms in exactly the same region. Not everyone was chasing the complexity of the elite Roman table. And to those who claim that complex flavors like garum are now out of vogue or disgusting, I present the modern equivalent: colatura di alici (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colatura_di_alici https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colatura_di_alici), an ingredient in classic, typical dishes from south Italy. Field mouse sounds tasty. Can't be far from cui.
    - black6 5y ago
      Worcestershire sauce is another garum analogue.
    - viggity 5y ago
      I've had cui (mostly to share pictures). I thought it was good, but idk how field mouse would be. Cui (guinea pig for the uninitiated) has a decent amount of meat on it. Field mice are so tiny, a chicken wing has has to have more meat on it. I'm presuming that when they ate field mice 2000 years ago, they're eating the entire thing with all organs except for maybe the intestines.
Bjorkbat 5y ago
What a shame, I was really hoping to get drunk on spicy wine and eat a bunch of snails and baked cheese.
- kyleee 5y ago
  Don't you dare tempt me with a good time
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- leadingthenet 5y ago
  …that sounds absolutely delicious?
rossdavidh 5y ago
I kept reading through, waiting for the "and now they will serve food here" part, until about one paragraph before the end.
mseidl 5y ago
I'd like some fossilized pizza please.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  > fossilized pizza It's here: https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/07/ancient-bread/ https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/07/07/ancient-bread/ https://museum-of-artifacts.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-carbonised-loaf-of-bread-from-pompeii.html https://museum-of-artifacts.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-carbonise... You joke, but the ovens in Pompeii (pictured at link above) look a lot like the wood-fired pizza domes down the road in Naples. The Romans could have made flatbread with cheese, herbs and fish or meat bits on it. But no tomatoes until they came back from the Americas in the 1500s. https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/noodles/2018/07/03/history-of-the-tomato-in-italy-and-china-tracing-the-role-of-tomatoes-in-italian-and-chinese-cooking/ https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/noodles/2018/07/03/history-of...
bruce343434 5y ago
Typical archeology journalism.
mbostleman 5y ago
That was exactly what I expected.
vanderZwan 5y ago
It wouldn't be the same without Terry Jones narrating it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCv-JfyOMk&t=430s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCv-JfyOMk&t=430s

teleforce 5y ago

To learn how people in Roman Pompeii used to live and eat please check this excellent video [1]. [1]https://youtu.be/k0zBG5R7TXU https://youtu.be/k0zBG5R7TXU

thomasfl 5y ago

This makes me remember that people with the same dreams and urge for fast food as myself, has been living on this planet for thousands of year. And of course - memento mori (remember that you have to die).

lvxferre 5y ago

I love how similar the building is to a lot of bars you see in Latin America. I could easily picture a bunch of stools on one side of the S-shaped table/stove, with people chugging wine and snacking, while on the other side you had two workers preparing food.

xtiansimon 5y ago

Reading other posts here about local tastes and modern tastes, I feel compelled to relate something from my community on Long Island, NY. First, I’m from Northern California and various ethnic cuisine taste very different there. Thai flavors different from Vietnamese, different from American Chinese, etc. from cheap eats to sit down. Here in my community it all tastes the same! Haha. Thick gravies. Bland flavors. But what flipped my lid yesterday was a new Indian restaurant (yay. I love vegetarian dishes and Marsala flavors). And what is their fare? American Hamburgers and gravy heavy American Indian. They made a meaty diner. Town already has 2 diners, 5 American Chinese, 3 franchise hamburger, 2 private hamburger/shake, 5 pizza, 6 bodega/hot holding, 2 American hot holding w/burgers. What were they thinking? Modern tastes are wak, with stupid money financing them.

MisterTea 5y ago
I'm From NYC, lived in West Babylon, worked in Farmingdale, and I have a hard time believing you. There is good ethnic food on LI, just look for it. I love Turkish and there's a little shop on Rt 109 and Strait Path in N. Lindenhurst, Pasha Kebob and Grill. Want fast and cheap Polish lunch? Go down Great Neck rd to Oak st in Copiague and there are a few delis selling delicious hot food for $3-8 per plate. Main st in Farmingdale has Rolling Spring Roll, Awesome Vietnamese place, love their Pho (also one in Syosset). Down the street is Grecian Grill, a good Greek Joint. And these are just the few I care to mention. Granted LI is big and I named places closer to Farmingdale. But you get the idea.
- xtiansimon 5y ago
  Love it. Unintended consequence of complaining about lack of tasty food, someone shares their favorites. Now I have some new places to go! I feel like we're having a debate about the health of some natural ecosystem. You're describing an area 25mi x 14mi--We got signs of healthy ecosystem here. 1 wolf over here. 2 black bear over there. 1 brown beaver. My rant is about just what you can find in a 1mi radius (time to spill the beans--of Glen Cove). And all I'm seeing in my ecosystem are squirrels. If I'm going to drive, then I'd go to Hicksville, Floral Park or Flushing for Indian Cuisine. Don't get me wrong. I invite you to visit Glen Cove for Central American cusine, and Italian cuisine of Campania and Tuscany. And you can get a hamburger in 8 places. haha Full disclosure, I work in consulting for the restaurant industry (not in Glen Cove). I love tasty food, and I also like to understand business decisions. So when I find bland tasteless food, it makes me sad. When I find a new businesses which decided to compete for a share of the same customers selling similar fare, I'm baffled.

SeanLuke 5y ago

Pompeii's public area is riddled with thermopoli ("fast food joints"), some of which are in quite good condition. The difference is that this one is in fantastic condition, which is wonderful: but it's far from unique.

cblconfederate 5y ago

Apparently you can have a hot dog and Caesar's salad with rooster