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Can you provide a source for COVID deaths? Is there a source that gives the number of deaths that were caused by COVID and nothing else? They say that anyone wh

Can you provide a source for COVID deaths? Is there a source that gives the number of deaths that were caused by COVID and nothing else? They say that anyone who died and tested positive for the presence of COVID was considered a COVID death even if they got hit by a bus for example. And many elderly people died from it who were on the brink of death and were just as likely to die from some other minor insult. I wonder how many life hours were lost, I think that might be a more accurate metric. Traffic deaths in USA over 2 years ~80,000. Nobody cares.

SilverRed 5y ago
>Traffic deaths in USA over 2 years ~80,000. Nobody cares. Many people do care about this and advocate for less car infrastructure, safer streets, better walkability and better public transport. Car centric design was the worst mistake of the last few decades.
- throwawaysea 5y ago
  There is a clear positive return on those traffic deaths. We live far richer lives because of motor vehicles and what quick private transportation unlocks. I think car centric design is great personally.
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    Debatable but there is a lot of research showing long car commutes are taking a significant toll on mental health and physical health. We have constantly rising rates of depression, stress and obesity. All things that are partially linked to car usage. We live far richer lives due to a huge array of technological progressions. An anecdote but my life massively improved when I got rid of my car and moved somewhere where walking is my only transport method needed. I'm healthier, happier, and have more free time.
  - koyote 5y ago
    Do you think that a car centric society such as the US has benefited its residents more than a society which has moved away from car centric city design such as the Netherlands?
jobigoud 5y ago
If anything it's underestimated, this can be seen by comparing the number to excess mortality.
- supperburg 5y ago
  Mortality doesn’t seem to have spiked. It’s just continued the trend upward that started in 2009. Looking at a chart of mortality, I don’t see anything. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=US&start=1960 https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?location...

SilverRed 5y ago

>Traffic deaths in USA over 2 years ~80,000. Nobody cares. Many people do care about this and advocate for less car infrastructure, safer streets, better walkability and better public transport. Car centric design was the worst mistake of the last few decades.

throwawaysea 5y ago
There is a clear positive return on those traffic deaths. We live far richer lives because of motor vehicles and what quick private transportation unlocks. I think car centric design is great personally.
- SilverRed 5y ago
  Debatable but there is a lot of research showing long car commutes are taking a significant toll on mental health and physical health. We have constantly rising rates of depression, stress and obesity. All things that are partially linked to car usage. We live far richer lives due to a huge array of technological progressions. An anecdote but my life massively improved when I got rid of my car and moved somewhere where walking is my only transport method needed. I'm healthier, happier, and have more free time.
- koyote 5y ago
  Do you think that a car centric society such as the US has benefited its residents more than a society which has moved away from car centric city design such as the Netherlands?

jobigoud 5y ago

If anything it's underestimated, this can be seen by comparing the number to excess mortality.

supperburg 5y ago
Mortality doesn’t seem to have spiked. It’s just continued the trend upward that started in 2009. Looking at a chart of mortality, I don’t see anything. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=US&start=1960 https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?location...