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Well, here I am. Judge for yourself: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700845_500275845_4090376_7001455_n.jpg?dl=1 http://photos-a.ak.fbc

by palish 15y ago

Well, here I am. Judge for yourself: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700845_500275845_4090376_7001455_n.jpg?dl=1 http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700... I drink over half gallon of soda a day, and survive mostly on $1 McChickens. So I'm either a freak of nature, or we don't know as much as we think we do about nature.

saturn 15y ago
Dude, don't put me on the spot like that. I'm not going to judge your bloody photo. What is this, hotornot.com? That said, you're pretty young, and your awful diet has evidently not caught up with you yet. When it does, I predict a swift re-evaluation of your ideas about nutrition and self-exceptionalism.
- palish 15y ago
  I'm sorry.
- Nrsolis 15y ago
  I'll bite. Right now you're doing OK because you've got a relatively high metabolic rate. By the time you hit your mid-30s to early 40s, a natural drop in testosterone is going to slow that metabolic rate right down and you'll see a gradual buildup of belly fat. In fact, I can already see the beginnings of it in your photo right now. I can't see your jawline but your cheeks look a little full for a guy your age. I used to be 140-150# and now I fight to stay at 180#. In all likelihood I'm never going to get back to where I once was. I've redirected my goals to minimizing bodyfat and building muscle. It's not easy but my health has improved markedly.
JanezStupar 15y ago
Dude I hate to break you're little bubble - but you fat. You might not be as hopelessly obese as people you are used to calling fat. But the truth is you are fat too. You don't look healthy either and with continuing your lifestyle like you do, You are a ticking timebomb of diabetes, cholesterol issues, gout and other nasty metabolic diseases. Take an example of my mother, she is 70 and has developed both gout and diabetes. Now imagine what you are allowed to eat - to not have issues with your body (hint. For diabetes - sugars are verboten and for gout proteins are denied.). Now imagine that there is a very real risk, that you will be in same condition by your mid 40's. Wake up. Now. Edit: I understand that a lot of HNers with our geeky lifestyles deem OP completely "normal" and "healthy" - but this is simply not the truth. And thus everybody might be in a deep denial.
- palish 15y ago
  This is very possible too. What's the criteria for judging "healthy"? I mean, I have no ego, and I'm not doing this out of narcissism or some silliness like that. I genuinely care about "the truth". So if the truth is I don't look healthy, then I'd like to know why. I was just about run up to the local gas station and buy a $0.72 44oz Cherry Coke, then run up to McDonalds and grab a McChicken for $1.09, then head back and keep programming. Total time: 15min, total cost: $1.81. If you give me convenient alternatives, I guarantee I'll switch. And maybe this thread will help educate other people who are doing similar things as me.
  - ars 15y ago
    I used to be just like you. I didn't care, and my weight was fine. Until it wasn't, it was very very slow. So slow I barely noticed, but eventually I was overweight. Now I have to work doubly hard to get it back down.
  - WA 15y ago
    Tap water = 0$ 1 Apple, 2 Banana < 1.81$ Problem solved. Edit: You could also buy 20 apples at once and keep them stored. This reduces your time overhead significantly.
  - JanezStupar 15y ago
    On health criteria - I'm not implying that you should be all "Jersey Style". However - for me, first sign of health is muscle tonus - yours seems not very good (as is most geeks). Then your hair seems in a pretty bad shape - that has less to do with washing and more with food you consume. And your general posture does not imply - "I am fit for battle" (you also look sleep depraved). On convenience of healthy food. It's very subjective for me since I was raised on organic food (farmerboy here, it is quite interesting that our farm was organic waay before "organic" even existed. Industrial farming just didn't seem "right" to my parents) I have a general distaste for any kind industrial food (except various sweets :D). Thus you will not find any sodas and/or McStyle food on my menu - because I just don't like the taste of it. (Yes I will turn into a BK or MD every now and then - just to find out that I don't like it - over and over :)) But - being a geek I also have (or at least had) this problem of seeing food preparation as too mundane for me. However since I quit my corporate job I actually started liking to take care of our garden (40m2 in backyard) and orchard, and I have always liked cooking (I love nice tasty food). So now I have learned to treat it as a stabilizing factor in my life, to just you know - slow down for a while while doing gardening tasks it also provides a basic exercise. I know understand that producing your own food is not an option for you - I'd just like to point out that eating a meal that you produced from ground up is one of best experiences in life - right there with drugs, sex and programming. Just to let you know that if you ever get a chance at producing your own food - you should take it. It's not too much work either. A couple of weeks in spring and one in autumn - in between its mostly about basic maintenance and pest control - nature takes care of the rest. Like mentioned - this last paragraph may not do much for you and you might even see me as (rightly) bragging - but it's here just so you can understand what angle I am coming from. Now about how you can make healthy food convenient and cheap. 1. Accept that it will take more time than junk-food (thats half of its point), but it will take less time than you expect - especially once you get used to it. 2. Stop consuming sodas and just divert "soda fund" into "food fund" - you are meant to drink water and should learn to do it ASAP. 3. Beans, Pasta, Potatoes, Full corn Bread, vegetables, nuts and dairy products should be the staple of your diet. 4. A lot of home cooking can be done fast or semi-absent (vegetable soup - cut vegetables, add water, put on an appropriate power setting - return after an hour or two - enjoy delicious vegetable soup). Pasta is fast and simple to prepare (also will keep you well fed for quite awhile). To maximise yield, learn to cook larger amounts - don't just cook a single meal worth of soup or pasta. Example: Cook a pound worth of beans (this is 4 days worth of protein) - meal 1: eat some beans with cracklings; meal 2: use some of the beans in salad; meal 3: cook some bean soup with pasta; You can also use your vegetable soup as basis for your pasta sauce, etc. 5. Salads are super fast to prepare. 6. Fruit meals require no preparation. But you could also view your food preparation as a ritual that will help you stay balanced in your life - and thus not a waste of time. Oh and to be honest - its perfectly possible to grow fat on healthy food. It's just not so easy and your organism will not have to endure so much stress.
dredmorbius 15y ago
It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot, but I'd estimate your body fat at about 25%-30% based on your face, and what appears to be a pretty soft abdomen. Given your weight of 220#, that means you're carrying about 55-66# of fat on you. Drop that to 10-15% (a pretty good athletic range) without losing muscle, and you'd be somewhere in the 170 - 190# range.
- roel_v 15y ago
  "It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot," Be careful there - next thing you know he's going to post a photo in his underwear. All for science, of course ;)
  - palish 15y ago
    Well, if you insist... But on the other hand, you could get those pictures from your mom. (Hi Sarah! ;))
    - roel_v 15y ago
      Not sure if this was an Eddy Murphy imitation or that you mistake me for someone else?
  - dredmorbius 15y ago
    If he does, I'll point him at the T-Nation "Rate My Physique" rules for posing. Newbies always forget wheel shots.
__rkaup__ 15y ago
Click this link instead. He left the ?dl=1 on there. http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700845_500275845_4090376_7001455_n.jpg http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700...
jdunlop 15y ago
While you don't look obese, you don't look too fit either. With that kind of diet, I see a coronary bypass in your future.
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01Michael10 15y ago
Ummmmm, nobody is going to check out your photo. It's awesome that diet is working for you (for now) but it doesn't for the other 99% who eat like that. Just look around you...

by palish 15y ago

saturn 15y ago

Dude, don't put me on the spot like that. I'm not going to judge your bloody photo. What is this, hotornot.com? That said, you're pretty young, and your awful diet has evidently not caught up with you yet. When it does, I predict a swift re-evaluation of your ideas about nutrition and self-exceptionalism.

palish 15y ago
I'm sorry.
Nrsolis 15y ago
I'll bite. Right now you're doing OK because you've got a relatively high metabolic rate. By the time you hit your mid-30s to early 40s, a natural drop in testosterone is going to slow that metabolic rate right down and you'll see a gradual buildup of belly fat. In fact, I can already see the beginnings of it in your photo right now. I can't see your jawline but your cheeks look a little full for a guy your age. I used to be 140-150# and now I fight to stay at 180#. In all likelihood I'm never going to get back to where I once was. I've redirected my goals to minimizing bodyfat and building muscle. It's not easy but my health has improved markedly.

JanezStupar 15y ago

Dude I hate to break you're little bubble - but you fat. You might not be as hopelessly obese as people you are used to calling fat. But the truth is you are fat too. You don't look healthy either and with continuing your lifestyle like you do, You are a ticking timebomb of diabetes, cholesterol issues, gout and other nasty metabolic diseases. Take an example of my mother, she is 70 and has developed both gout and diabetes. Now imagine what you are allowed to eat - to not have issues with your body (hint. For diabetes - sugars are verboten and for gout proteins are denied.). Now imagine that there is a very real risk, that you will be in same condition by your mid 40's. Wake up. Now. Edit: I understand that a lot of HNers with our geeky lifestyles deem OP completely "normal" and "healthy" - but this is simply not the truth. And thus everybody might be in a deep denial.

palish 15y ago
This is very possible too. What's the criteria for judging "healthy"? I mean, I have no ego, and I'm not doing this out of narcissism or some silliness like that. I genuinely care about "the truth". So if the truth is I don't look healthy, then I'd like to know why. I was just about run up to the local gas station and buy a $0.72 44oz Cherry Coke, then run up to McDonalds and grab a McChicken for $1.09, then head back and keep programming. Total time: 15min, total cost: $1.81. If you give me convenient alternatives, I guarantee I'll switch. And maybe this thread will help educate other people who are doing similar things as me.
- ars 15y ago
  I used to be just like you. I didn't care, and my weight was fine. Until it wasn't, it was very very slow. So slow I barely noticed, but eventually I was overweight. Now I have to work doubly hard to get it back down.
- WA 15y ago
  Tap water = 0$ 1 Apple, 2 Banana < 1.81$ Problem solved. Edit: You could also buy 20 apples at once and keep them stored. This reduces your time overhead significantly.
- JanezStupar 15y ago
  On health criteria - I'm not implying that you should be all "Jersey Style". However - for me, first sign of health is muscle tonus - yours seems not very good (as is most geeks). Then your hair seems in a pretty bad shape - that has less to do with washing and more with food you consume. And your general posture does not imply - "I am fit for battle" (you also look sleep depraved). On convenience of healthy food. It's very subjective for me since I was raised on organic food (farmerboy here, it is quite interesting that our farm was organic waay before "organic" even existed. Industrial farming just didn't seem "right" to my parents) I have a general distaste for any kind industrial food (except various sweets :D). Thus you will not find any sodas and/or McStyle food on my menu - because I just don't like the taste of it. (Yes I will turn into a BK or MD every now and then - just to find out that I don't like it - over and over :)) But - being a geek I also have (or at least had) this problem of seeing food preparation as too mundane for me. However since I quit my corporate job I actually started liking to take care of our garden (40m2 in backyard) and orchard, and I have always liked cooking (I love nice tasty food). So now I have learned to treat it as a stabilizing factor in my life, to just you know - slow down for a while while doing gardening tasks it also provides a basic exercise. I know understand that producing your own food is not an option for you - I'd just like to point out that eating a meal that you produced from ground up is one of best experiences in life - right there with drugs, sex and programming. Just to let you know that if you ever get a chance at producing your own food - you should take it. It's not too much work either. A couple of weeks in spring and one in autumn - in between its mostly about basic maintenance and pest control - nature takes care of the rest. Like mentioned - this last paragraph may not do much for you and you might even see me as (rightly) bragging - but it's here just so you can understand what angle I am coming from. Now about how you can make healthy food convenient and cheap. 1. Accept that it will take more time than junk-food (thats half of its point), but it will take less time than you expect - especially once you get used to it. 2. Stop consuming sodas and just divert "soda fund" into "food fund" - you are meant to drink water and should learn to do it ASAP. 3. Beans, Pasta, Potatoes, Full corn Bread, vegetables, nuts and dairy products should be the staple of your diet. 4. A lot of home cooking can be done fast or semi-absent (vegetable soup - cut vegetables, add water, put on an appropriate power setting - return after an hour or two - enjoy delicious vegetable soup). Pasta is fast and simple to prepare (also will keep you well fed for quite awhile). To maximise yield, learn to cook larger amounts - don't just cook a single meal worth of soup or pasta. Example: Cook a pound worth of beans (this is 4 days worth of protein) - meal 1: eat some beans with cracklings; meal 2: use some of the beans in salad; meal 3: cook some bean soup with pasta; You can also use your vegetable soup as basis for your pasta sauce, etc. 5. Salads are super fast to prepare. 6. Fruit meals require no preparation. But you could also view your food preparation as a ritual that will help you stay balanced in your life - and thus not a waste of time. Oh and to be honest - its perfectly possible to grow fat on healthy food. It's just not so easy and your organism will not have to endure so much stress.

dredmorbius 15y ago

It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot, but I'd estimate your body fat at about 25%-30% based on your face, and what appears to be a pretty soft abdomen. Given your weight of 220#, that means you're carrying about 55-66# of fat on you. Drop that to 10-15% (a pretty good athletic range) without losing muscle, and you'd be somewhere in the 170 - 190# range.

roel_v 15y ago
"It's a little hard to judge from a fully-clothed shot," Be careful there - next thing you know he's going to post a photo in his underwear. All for science, of course ;)
- palish 15y ago
  Well, if you insist... But on the other hand, you could get those pictures from your mom. (Hi Sarah! ;))
  - roel_v 15y ago
    Not sure if this was an Eddy Murphy imitation or that you mistake me for someone else?
- dredmorbius 15y ago
  If he does, I'll point him at the T-Nation "Rate My Physique" rules for posing. Newbies always forget wheel shots.

__rkaup__ 15y ago

Click this link instead. He left the ?dl=1 on there. http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700845_500275845_4090376_7001455_n.jpg http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/24114_337315700...

jdunlop 15y ago

While you don't look obese, you don't look too fit either. With that kind of diet, I see a coronary bypass in your future.

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01Michael10 15y ago

Ummmmm, nobody is going to check out your photo. It's awesome that diet is working for you (for now) but it doesn't for the other 99% who eat like that. Just look around you...