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Actually that's not what he did. He blamed the Afghan government and army for literally dissolving in 1 week to 10 days. Within 10 days they gave up like 17 of

Actually that's not what he did. He blamed the Afghan government and army for literally dissolving in 1 week to 10 days. Within 10 days they gave up like 17 of the largest cities, eventually Kabul, a city of 4.5 million people literally in a couple of hours. It was absurd. Who would've predicted that? And what would Trump have done differently, since I'm sure that's your guy. He wanted to pull out by May. Obviously from your vacation comment (he was at Camp David which is like 30 mins by heli from the White House)... you're just being partisan and a troll.

trasz 5y ago
Literally anyone except Americans would predict that. See, from the American point of view, war is not much more than GTA. They don’t risk anything. American casualties are insignificant compared to the number of their victims. Compare this to the situation of people who actually live there, and have to choose between fighting a war they cannot win, and surviving.
- randomopining 5y ago
  Really, so you and a bunch of people predicted that the Taliban would take over all the prov capitals including Kabul within ~10 days? Interesting. Your last two sentences are such an oversimplification of the situation... it shows how sophomoric your post is and most likely your understanding of the world.
toast0 5y ago
> It was absurd. Who would've predicted that? And what would Trump have done differently, since I'm sure that's your guy. He wanted to pull out by May. In April, an NPR article [1] has a predictive quotes: > Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee last week that if the U.S. does not provide Afghanistan's security forces "with some support, they certainly will collapse." There's also a quote from Secretary of State Antony Blinken that a Taliban takeover is a possible scenario. Personally, I'm not surprised that the Taliban took over, although I thought it would take a bit longer. It's also bipartisan (although, usually one side at a time) to complain that the President is on vacation. [1] https://www.npr.org/2021/04/28/990160846/u-s-unconditional-withdrawal-rattles-afghanistans-shaky-peace-talks https://www.npr.org/2021/04/28/990160846/u-s-unconditional-w...
- randomopining 5y ago
  That's what I'm saying. Nobody, literally not one person, thought they would go from capturing their first provincial capital to capturing ALL 18, including Kabul, within 10 DAYS. How is a vague predication of collapse "predictive"? Everybody knew they would collapse. Most thought at least several weeks, at most 6 months. How is it "bipartisan" to complain he's on vacation when Camp David is a 30 min heli ride from the White House. It's not like some extravagant trip. Trump would be golfing in Mar a Lago in Florida and you probably wouldn't have made the same issue about it.
onepointsixC 5y ago
He said that Afghans visa applicants didn't want to leave. I'm not talking about the ANA here, I'm talking about interpreters who for three years have been trying to get out of Afghanistan because they and their families are targets for assassination. He blatantly lied. The backlog is enormous and the process has been incredibly slow. >Obviously from your vacation comment (he was at Camp David which is like 30 mins by heli from the White House)... you're just being partisan and a troll. It doesn't matter where he spends his vacation, just that he went back on vacation. 10,000 Americans and nearly 80,000 Afghans who worked with the US against the Taliban are now in the hands of the Taliban. Your comment is identical in its deflection to Biden's retort to being asked about Afghans falling to their deaths. "That was four days ago, five days" he said, (incorrectly by the way as it was the day before), as though when they were falling was issue and not that they were falling.

trasz 5y ago

Literally anyone except Americans would predict that. See, from the American point of view, war is not much more than GTA. They don’t risk anything. American casualties are insignificant compared to the number of their victims. Compare this to the situation of people who actually live there, and have to choose between fighting a war they cannot win, and surviving.

randomopining 5y ago
Really, so you and a bunch of people predicted that the Taliban would take over all the prov capitals including Kabul within ~10 days? Interesting. Your last two sentences are such an oversimplification of the situation... it shows how sophomoric your post is and most likely your understanding of the world.

toast0 5y ago

> It was absurd. Who would've predicted that? And what would Trump have done differently, since I'm sure that's your guy. He wanted to pull out by May. In April, an NPR article [1] has a predictive quotes: > Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee last week that if the U.S. does not provide Afghanistan's security forces "with some support, they certainly will collapse." There's also a quote from Secretary of State Antony Blinken that a Taliban takeover is a possible scenario. Personally, I'm not surprised that the Taliban took over, although I thought it would take a bit longer. It's also bipartisan (although, usually one side at a time) to complain that the President is on vacation. [1] https://www.npr.org/2021/04/28/990160846/u-s-unconditional-withdrawal-rattles-afghanistans-shaky-peace-talks https://www.npr.org/2021/04/28/990160846/u-s-unconditional-w...

randomopining 5y ago
That's what I'm saying. Nobody, literally not one person, thought they would go from capturing their first provincial capital to capturing ALL 18, including Kabul, within 10 DAYS. How is a vague predication of collapse "predictive"? Everybody knew they would collapse. Most thought at least several weeks, at most 6 months. How is it "bipartisan" to complain he's on vacation when Camp David is a 30 min heli ride from the White House. It's not like some extravagant trip. Trump would be golfing in Mar a Lago in Florida and you probably wouldn't have made the same issue about it.

onepointsixC 5y ago

He said that Afghans visa applicants didn't want to leave. I'm not talking about the ANA here, I'm talking about interpreters who for three years have been trying to get out of Afghanistan because they and their families are targets for assassination. He blatantly lied. The backlog is enormous and the process has been incredibly slow. >Obviously from your vacation comment (he was at Camp David which is like 30 mins by heli from the White House)... you're just being partisan and a troll. It doesn't matter where he spends his vacation, just that he went back on vacation. 10,000 Americans and nearly 80,000 Afghans who worked with the US against the Taliban are now in the hands of the Taliban. Your comment is identical in its deflection to Biden's retort to being asked about Afghans falling to their deaths. "That was four days ago, five days" he said, (incorrectly by the way as it was the day before), as though when they were falling was issue and not that they were falling.