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Whatever valid criticisms exist, they’re simply incomparable to the insanely evil human rights abomination that is the Taliban. It’d be like asking after the N

Whatever valid criticisms exist, they’re simply incomparable to the insanely evil human rights abomination that is the Taliban. It’d be like asking after the Nazi invasion of France “why is nobody talking about the human rights abuses in Algeria?” EDIT: Downvotes for the very controversial opinion of... checks notes... saying the Taliban has less respect for human rights abuses than the United States.

cududa 5y ago
…you’re aware the Nazis occupied Algeria, yes?
- dcolkitt 5y ago
  How is that relevant?
toomuchtodo 5y ago
You’re not wrong about the Taliban, but it is also untenable for American forces to remain in a country after trillions of dollars, two decades, and so many lives were lost when Afghans were never going to fight for themselves. Evacuate everyone who wants out, leave behind those who choose to exist under Taliban rule. Treat it like Cuba but with more support for those who intend to flee (arranged safe passage through diplomatic and military supply chains, for example).
- dcolkitt 5y ago
  I completely agree. But I object to OP’s characterization of “both sides are bad”. This is very much a case of evil triumphing over good. Not saying there are any other options at this point, but it’s stupid to celebrate a victory by the Taliban
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trasz 5y ago
How many people have been killed by Taliban, compared to the number of victims of US invasion?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
  According to the United Nations, the Taliban and its allies were responsible for 76% of civilian casualties in Afghanistan in 2009, 75% in 2010 and 80% in 2011
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bsder 5y ago
It is easy to naysay and complain. The problem is ... what does a positive outcome for Afghanistan look like and how do you get there? And, if we couldn't get there in 20 years, should we be there at all? Apparently, there is not enough fight in any group in Afghanistan to oppose the Taliban. So, now what?

cududa 5y ago

…you’re aware the Nazis occupied Algeria, yes?

dcolkitt 5y ago
How is that relevant?

toomuchtodo 5y ago

You’re not wrong about the Taliban, but it is also untenable for American forces to remain in a country after trillions of dollars, two decades, and so many lives were lost when Afghans were never going to fight for themselves. Evacuate everyone who wants out, leave behind those who choose to exist under Taliban rule. Treat it like Cuba but with more support for those who intend to flee (arranged safe passage through diplomatic and military supply chains, for example).

dcolkitt 5y ago
I completely agree. But I object to OP’s characterization of “both sides are bad”. This is very much a case of evil triumphing over good. Not saying there are any other options at this point, but it’s stupid to celebrate a victory by the Taliban
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trasz 5y ago

How many people have been killed by Taliban, compared to the number of victims of US invasion?

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
According to the United Nations, the Taliban and its allies were responsible for 76% of civilian casualties in Afghanistan in 2009, 75% in 2010 and 80% in 2011
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bsder 5y ago

It is easy to naysay and complain. The problem is ... what does a positive outcome for Afghanistan look like and how do you get there? And, if we couldn't get there in 20 years, should we be there at all? Apparently, there is not enough fight in any group in Afghanistan to oppose the Taliban. So, now what?