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wow that website brings me back. it's horribly out of date but I can see why they kept it. its readable with good information density, and many times faster t

wow that website brings me back. it's horribly out of date but I can see why they kept it. its readable with good information density, and many times faster than js-laden project websites that use frameworks designed for SPAs to display a changelog

s_dev 5y ago
It's not 'out of date' in my book but very much on brand for the intended audience like: https://www.openbsd.org/ https://www.openbsd.org/ A very intentional design choice that reflects what the project values.
- anjbe 5y ago
  Incidentally, the OpenBSD website, while visually little‐changed since the 1990s, is 100% valid HTML5. Decent quality HTML too, with proper use of tags and good separation of presentation into external CSS.
  - hulitu 5y ago
    But is it valid HTML6 ? Some people are just running for version numbers.
xuhu 5y ago
The page loads in 10 seconds on an i7-10850H, and it's not due to downloading the html. Chrome just freezes while parsing the DOM or something.
- lrem 5y ago
  Firefox on a Surface Pro deals with it just fine.
- handrous 5y ago
  Loading it locally I get 2s of "styles recalculated" taking almost the entire load time, in Safari's "Timeline" tool. Wrapping the main body text in a <pre>, with no other changes, drops that to 0.8s total layout time. It's the tens of thousands of <br> tags in that block doing it, then, I guess.
- slim 5y ago
  Could be. Html is full of errors https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slackware.com%2Fchangelog%2Fcurrent.php%3Fcpu%3Dx86_64 https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slackware....
  - handrous 5y ago
    Most of those are warnings like "the attribute you've used from back when HTML was slim and fast is obsolete, please use this slower modern thing instead". I doubt that's making the page slow. Only a few are actual errors.
pavon 5y ago
The style of the background image is dated (although since it is more subtle than others of the era it doesn't stick out too badly), but the rest of the design is clean and remarkably modern looking for a site that hasn't been redesigned in over 20 years.

s_dev 5y ago

It's not 'out of date' in my book but very much on brand for the intended audience like: https://www.openbsd.org/ https://www.openbsd.org/ A very intentional design choice that reflects what the project values.

anjbe 5y ago
Incidentally, the OpenBSD website, while visually little‐changed since the 1990s, is 100% valid HTML5. Decent quality HTML too, with proper use of tags and good separation of presentation into external CSS.
- hulitu 5y ago
  But is it valid HTML6 ? Some people are just running for version numbers.

xuhu 5y ago

The page loads in 10 seconds on an i7-10850H, and it's not due to downloading the html. Chrome just freezes while parsing the DOM or something.

lrem 5y ago
Firefox on a Surface Pro deals with it just fine.
handrous 5y ago
Loading it locally I get 2s of "styles recalculated" taking almost the entire load time, in Safari's "Timeline" tool. Wrapping the main body text in a <pre>, with no other changes, drops that to 0.8s total layout time. It's the tens of thousands of <br> tags in that block doing it, then, I guess.
slim 5y ago
Could be. Html is full of errors https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slackware.com%2Fchangelog%2Fcurrent.php%3Fcpu%3Dx86_64 https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slackware....
- handrous 5y ago
  Most of those are warnings like "the attribute you've used from back when HTML was slim and fast is obsolete, please use this slower modern thing instead". I doubt that's making the page slow. Only a few are actual errors.

pavon 5y ago

The style of the background image is dated (although since it is more subtle than others of the era it doesn't stick out too badly), but the rest of the design is clean and remarkably modern looking for a site that hasn't been redesigned in over 20 years.